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kmac1
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Residential Install with an older NID**WITH PICS**

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For those of you that have older residences you might have on of these NIDs. The little grey box on the left is called a draycon(not sure of the exact spelling). This houses a block inside with 2 or 4 posts and protectors. The box is not big enough to put a filter in so an extra housing must be put up. This house had a DSL line by a different provider(unnamed here, but they're no longer in business) I utilized the extra housing to make up a filtered homerun. As you look at the 2nd picture these are the steps.

1)Place the new housing next to the existing one using fasteners appropriate for the house material.

2)Remove the existing IW(s) from the binding posts. Keep them together and remember the polarity.

3)Place a piece of IW between the two. 4 pair Cat-3 is preferred, but 2 pair is fine.

4)Use the first pair(wht/blue) for your dial-tone going to the filter. Another pair will bring filtered dial-tone back.

5)Use phone wire connectors(available at most electronics stores) for solid connections.

In this scenario the customer had run a new dedicated IW, instead of using what was existing, and had left it hanging loose for me. It doesn't matter which housing you connect the new homerun as long as it's in front of the filter.
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kmac1
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In these close-ups you can see more detail of the wiring. If you choose to place the new homerun in the old housing then attach the pair you're using to the same posts as the new IW going to the filter in the other housing. If you place the homerun in the new housing, make sure you join it to dial-tone before the filter. If you have alot of existing IWs then you'll have more room in the new housing.
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kmac1
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This is the housing I'd have used if there wasn't one already there. It's made by Keptel and has the clips to retain the filter as well as 2 posts to make your connections. You can use any small housing as long as it's sturdy and weatherproof. Outdoor electrical boxes would perform nicely, especially if they have rubber grommets. Just make sure that water can't get into them and short out your dial-tone.

Good luck!
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kmac1
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Hope these pics help. I'm trying to get pictures of more NIDs that people will have. I'll post those soon.
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nunya
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Old, Old, Old NID's formerly known as protectors

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Here are some older protectors that some people will still have in their homes. The one on the Left was used in the 40's-60's. The customer wire is on top (historicaly correct). This is where you would install your own wiring. The fatter grey (olive) wire on top is the ground wire. The fat black wire on the bottom is the drop (not customer serviceable). The brass rails are shunts which bypassed the red fuses underneath. The black bakelite (sometimes brass) round piece is the cover for carbon protectors which shunt any overvoltage to ground.

The protector on the right dates back to 1914. Notice it has no shunts and still used the red fuses. The carbon protectors are under the brass cap. It has no wiring because it is old and I do not want to disturb it. It lays out the same as the other.

Many homes still use these protectors. Do not be afraid of them. They will not affect your DSL service and are perfectly capable of protecting your line. You may want to brush off the dryer lint and cobwebs though.
If you are doing your own wiring, do not mess with the drop wire. Remember that there is voltage on the line and it will bite you. Use good wire (cat3, no stranded or flat wire). If you are unsure, CALL A PRO.
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