kicken_acid
join:2004-06-15
Saint George, UT
|  Help Setup Wireless Network
Hey
I need some serious help on setting up a wireless network
what i want to do is take my incoming broadband connection and hook it up to a wap and allow some freinds in my neighborhood to share it. what equipment will i need and were do i go to find it. Like router, antenna, and so on. if possible up to a 10 mile range. in all directions.;) good equipment thats cheap if possible i dont really want to go over $300 and i already have a wireless router its a netgear wireless router mr814v2 |
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click_310
Eat my shorts
join:2002-12-06
Savannah, GA
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June 16th, @05:56AM
| dont know about the $300 price range but the following links might help. I managed ~1 mile with a MR814 v2 once. But the speed was crappy. but it works.
good luck
»www.d128.com/wireless/index_old
»www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulp···628.html
»www.netscum.com/~clapp/wireless.html
»seattlewireless.net/index.cgi/Di···onalYagi
whoops... All those links are for directional antennas... you are looking for omni directional ones... 
YOu can only get the range that you looking for with directional ones for under 300 bucks.. for an omnidirectional solution you will need to boost the signal. But that does not make teh FCC happy... »www.wi-fiplanet.com/tutorials/ar···/1428941 |
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Anav
Sarcastic Llama? Naw, Just Acerbic
Premium
join:2001-07-16
Dartmouth, NS |  reply to kicken_acid
I think your being totally unrealistic.
Suggest you drop this project. |
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kicken_acid
join:2004-06-15
Saint George, UT | well then if money wasnt an issue , i just dont want to pay a ton;) |
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kicken_acid
join:2004-06-15
Saint George, UT | And if i can get eve 3miles that would be fine. id just use another wap to extend it eventually, so still please help. |
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russotto
join:2000-10-05
Collegeville, PA
| reply to kicken_acid
If money's not an issue (you're off by at least an order of magnitude) -- and you have line of sight with your friends, you need
1) An omnidirectional antenna at your location
2) A high quality AP with external antenna connectors at your location
3) A NAT router at your location.
4) Directional antennas at each of your friends' houses
5) Wireless bridges at each of your friends' houses
6) Mounting hardware, weatherproof boxes, cable, connectors, lightning protection, etc.
If you want to extend it with another WAP, you need to make sure your WAP is capable of WDS (that's "Wireless Distribution System), and you will need a dual-radio repeater and another omni (as well as a directional antenna) at the extension location.
If you really thought you could do it in the ballpark of $300, you're better off dropping the idea.
If not, search this forum; there are people who have pulled stuff like this off.
Note that what you're asking, essentially, is how to set up a wireless ISP. |
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kicken_acid
join:2004-06-15
Saint George, UT
| Thanks for the information, essentially that's what we are wanting to do re sale the bandwidth. Do any of you know exactly how to tell the range these omni antenna give, what exactly does a 10db antenna mean, and do you think this would work for a antenna »www.guerrilla.net/reference/ante···ar_omni/
I really appreciate you replies, now if someone could explain to me the actual process of setting up this hardware or a site that does id appreciate it:):) |
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click_310
Eat my shorts
join:2002-12-06
Savannah, GA
| I think reselling an internet/cable connection is illegal. But thats another story.
The antenna that you found on guerrilla.net is similar in config to this one »www.azwardriving.com/hardware/ou···omni.php
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Approximate 2.2 dBi range: 100 ft indoors @ 11megs, 350 ft @ 1meg
Approximate 12 dBi range: 1.4 miles @ 11megs, 4.5miles @ 1meg
Approximate 24 dBi range: 11.5 miles @ 11megs, 25miles @ 1meg
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How many people are you trying to connect? if its no more that 3-4 then read this one. These guys did it using directional antennas, (covering 22 miles), which you can buy or make @ home. »nepalwireless.net/
read this so that you can get teh equip togther
»seattlewireless.net/index.cgi/Fr···uestions |
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russotto
join:2000-10-05
Collegeville, PA
| reply to kicken_acid
There are wi-fi calculators all over the net; you can use that plus the gain numbers for the antennas, and the power and the sensitivity numbers for the radios (check out manufacturer's site or Seattle Wireless) to get your likely distances.
Note that for an omni, gain isn't all that matters. You also need to know the radiation pattern. If your targets aren't within the high-power areas of the pattern, you don't get the performance you want. An antenna manufacturer should provide diagrams of the pattern; use that with a topo map to make sure you're covering the area you want to.
As for building your own -- sure, it'll work. But you do have to make sure your measurements are accurate and precise, or (once again) you lose performance. And by the time you buy the tools, you'll probably not be saving all that much.
If you have access to discarded dishes, the directional antennas are a simpler proposition to build yourself. Again, search the net for instructions. |
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kicken_acid
join:2004-06-15
Saint George, UT
| Thanks for all your help i really appreciate it.
as for equipment i have everything i need, solder gun, micrometer, all i need to do is build the antenna. another question afte the antenna is build will i need some kinda of amplifier for the signal ? or am i good to just plug the antenna into the AP ? and what kinda of AP would you reccomend |
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