richk_1957
If ..Then..Else
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join:2001-04-11
Minas Tirith
| reply to Crypto
Re: Linking yahoo account to sbcglobal.net account BAD
This would depend on whether it is linked to a ACCOUNT or a E-MAIL ADDRESS.
If it's linked to an e-mail address, and you can have multiple ones, create a new one & make that your primary.
The all the junk will go to your old e-mail address.
If it's linked to the account....sorry:(
I've heard of this happening with other ISP's, though. |
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rug1000
join:2003-01-26
Louisville, KY
| reply to Crypto
Re: Linking yahoo account to sbcglobal.net account
Actually, I had the same problem. Didn't realize I had a yahoo mail account, just had an account signed up for games. I linked the accounts together so that I could log in to games with my yahoo id instead of the email address and have the all star icon next to my name. I'm now getting 200 spam emails a day because my yahoo name is such an easy one for the spammers to generate with their software.
But I'm voting with my money. SBC will NOT get a renewal on their contract in august when my contract with them expires and this is one of the main reasons (tougher situation for you as you just entered your 1 year contract)! Let us de-link these accounts! I hope they get the picture that this is not a good idea for customer relations and will at some point fix this problem, because it is a problem. The idea of being able to link the accounts is great. Sometimes the results could be disastrous and we should be able to undo it. I am the customer and I will dictate what the problems with my account are, and my money says so; don't try telling me or anyone else that has had a problem with it that it is not a problem. It's definitely a problem for us as you can see by our frustrations!
My workaround solution as I've never given out my yahoo email address to anyone I know, is to take all messages sent to that address and create a folder called yahoo bulk and create a rule to just send those directly to that folder (yahoo spam filter hasn't done a good job of catching a lot of this spam). Each time i log in, i go to that folder, select all and press delete. Lots of times many emails will get through because the spams aren't directly sent to my email address, sent to somebody else @yahoo.com (I'm probably a bcc) and will get into my inbox and won't be caught as spam. I'm reluctant to set up a rule that if I'm specifically not in the "to" line, to send it to the bulk folder because that may catch too many emails (especially if a friend sends an email and I'm a bcc). But doing the above has drastically reduced the amount of spam that shows up in my inbox.
Just wanted to let you know you're not the only one with this problem and that I feel your pain.
Also, can someone from SBC on this forum please give a detailed explanation of why we can't de-link the accounts? Specifically, how does it harm SBC and Yahoo to do this?
Thanks,
Rug |
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David
No,there is another.
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join:2002-05-30
Granite City, IL
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Re: Linking yahoo account to sbcglobal.net account BAD
The way I understood it...
is if you merged it with the primary account (since it controls how you authenticate and such) it cannot be changed, for the radius server or LNS server would have to be changed as well. Since the Radius server does not (or as least what I have been able to apprehend) accept @yahoo.com addresses into it they are effectively merged permanently (unless you cancel the account) like sbcj said...
What I have done in the past... when you create a subaccount you can unmerge the yahoo account with that one... but only on subaccounts not the primary...
What I kind of wished that SBC would think of (now and then it pops in my head and don't ask me why) is make the main account like this
•(insert your dsl telephone number here)@sbcglobal.net
and create this as like your own personal spam account. While setting up a name you like for the other 9 you have.
This could solve a few problems such as
• changing the password on the subaccount does not affect the main account. So if you use the main account into a 3rd party router you have, it is unaffected and is still signed on.
• All spam could go to that mandatory account (thus anything that you think you will get spammed can go there.. like a digital trash can.)
• with doing this the subaccount, if a yahoo ID is merged it can be unmerged with little to no impact at all, and the primary merging/unmerging yahoo accounts problem no longer exists. |
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jamez818
please hold during the silence
join:2000-09-18
Sunland, CA
·EarthLink
| reply to Crypto
Re: Linking yahoo account to sbcglobal.net account
i also had a similar problem. My main account wasn't the e-mail address that i normally use. The main account has up to 2gb of space while the sub accounts have 100mb. I tried to swap one of my sub accounts for my main account but sbc wouldn't let me. i asked if i could delete my main account and if one of the sub accounts could take its place and they said no.2gb gone to waste. just add a sub account and use it from now on, i know its frustrating but with time you will get use to it.good luck! |
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steelerboy26
join:2002-02-24
Oakland, CA
| reply to Crypto
Re: Linking yahoo account to sbcglobal.net account BAD
I had the same thing happen. But something that is easy for me to do because I go to yahoo a lot is go to my yahoo mail first... empty my bulk folder then I open my e-mail client and only get the things that are in the "in-box" instead of my 300+ spam messages a day.
I know it's not a solution... but it's a workaround.
Goodluck,
Steeler |
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psx_defector
join:2001-06-09
Allen, TX
| reply to Crypto
Re: Linking yahoo account to sbcglobal.net account
said by Crypto  :
I used the yahoo messenger a lot, and thought it would be nice to show up as being online. Actually, I didnt realize I even had a yahoo mail account associated with my yahoo ID (until the spam flood started) . I thought it was strictly an IM account, and yahoo.com preferences setting.
The email account was a total shock to me, honestly, if I had realized I had a yahoo mail account with hundreds of peices of spam in it, I would never have merged them.
It affects ALL Yahoo services. Messenger, Briefcase, Bookmarks, Games, Geocities, everything. Yahoo doesnt make any ID that is only for one service. And it did say after the registration, "From now on, use this ID for all Yahoo! services."
To Yahoo, both the yahoo.com and sbcglobal.net ID are exactly the same. When you call them for premimum support, giving them either ID will open your account.
Your best bet then, as I stated, is to set a filter on your account. This will allow you to move anything addressed to your @yahoo.com email address to another folder, effectively eliminating the junk mail generated by the Yahoo ID. |
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psx_defector
join:2001-06-09
Allen, TX
| reply to Gwailo
said by Gwailo :
said by psx_defector :
Come on, give the guy a break. He has openly said he made a mistake and nobody is perfect. We're trying to help him, not nail him to the cross.
As I tell everyone, I got the Jesus hair, but I dont got the abs............
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Crypto
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join:2001-01-07
Saint Charles, MO
| reply to Gwailo
Yeah, I can. Incidentally, putting in the sbcglobal.net account or the yahoo.com account both take me to the same mail page. I'm trying to use the spam filter, and deleting any spam automatically. I still get about 100 messages that make it through past that, so I'm also filtering all yahoo.com mail to it's own folder at home. I just dump it out occasionally.
This whole incident is really frustrating to me. The damage was done the very first time I signed up for initial DSL service. I feel like a retard for not having thought it out, but since my DSL wasnt working at the moment I activated my DSL service, I couldnt really check the web to see if there were any bad effects. Like I said, I just wanted to unify my Yahoo messenger accounts, I had no idea I even had a mail account with them anymore.
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Gwailo
join:2000-07-16
Richardson, TX
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| reply to Crypto
cbellers, can you still go to your www.yahoo.com account and click mail and then put your old Yahoo username and password in and go to your Yahoo mail? I don't know as I've never linked them.
If so, can you then go to mail preferences in free Yahoo and tell it to immediately delete what IT thinks is spam (instead of saving them in the BULK mail folder)?
The filter is "so-so" but it would probably get rid of most of them.
I agree it's ridicilous that what you can do with a mouse click apparently cannot be undone with a mouse click but that might help some. |
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Crypto
Premium
join:2001-01-07
Saint Charles, MO
| reply to psx_defector
said by psx_defector :
No one forced you to merge your Yahoo ID to your new account. If the reason you wanted to dump it was because of spam, why did you merge it to begin with?
I used the yahoo messenger a lot, and thought it would be nice to show up as being online. Actually, I didnt realize I even had a yahoo mail account associated with my yahoo ID (until the spam flood started) . I thought it was strictly an IM account, and yahoo.com preferences setting.
The email account was a total shock to me, honestly, if I had realized I had a yahoo mail account with hundreds of peices of spam in it, I would never have merged them.
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Gwailo
join:2000-07-16
Richardson, TX
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| reply to psx_defector
said by psx_defector :
No one forced you to merge your Yahoo ID to your new account. If the reason you wanted to dump it was because of spam, why did you merge it to begin with? I would expect that people who had been using an ID, getting mail on it, would expect that if you merge it, it will continue to get mail, good or bad.
Come on, give the guy a break. He has openly said he made a mistake and nobody is perfect. We're trying to help him, not nail him to the cross.
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psx_defector
join:2001-06-09
Allen, TX
| reply to Crypto
said by Crypto :
said by jm :
Well theres nothing broken.
Except that
A> I can no longer receive mail at my sbcglobal.net address
B> the yahoo.com address (that I stopped using in the first place because of spam) is up to 200 messages a day.
I'm sorry, but this is seriously the most idiotic thing I have ever heard of with regards to an ISP. Whomever engineered this 'link' process needs to get fired. I am simply appalled that there's no work around for it. The SBC page where they advertise the ability to do this really should be more clear about the dire implications.
Filter your Yahoo mail into a seperate folder. This will not download if you use POP access, and you can clear the box via webmail every once in a while to get rid of the mail.
No one forced you to merge your Yahoo ID to your new account. If the reason you wanted to dump it was because of spam, why did you merge it to begin with? I would expect that people who had been using an ID, getting mail on it, would expect that if you merge it, it will continue to get mail, good or bad. |
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Crypto
Premium
join:2001-01-07
Saint Charles, MO
| reply to jm
said by jm :
Well theres nothing broken.
Except that
A> I can no longer receive mail at my sbcglobal.net address
B> the yahoo.com address (that I stopped using in the first place because of spam) is up to 200 messages a day.
I'm sorry, but this is seriously the most idiotic thing I have ever heard of with regards to an ISP. Whomever engineered this 'link' process needs to get fired. I am simply appalled that there's no work around for it. The SBC page where they advertise the ability to do this really should be more clear about the dire implications.
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jm
join:2003-09-21
Graceville, FL | reply to Crypto
Well theres nothing broken. |
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Crypto
Premium
join:2001-01-07
Saint Charles, MO
| reply to jm
said by jm :
Well because its the master account, you cant.
So, you're telling me that I now have service I pay $40 a month for, and I'm stuck with for a year, and my email is permanently broken?
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jm
join:2003-09-21
Graceville, FL | reply to Crypto
Well because its the master account, you cant. |
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Crypto
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join:2001-01-07
Saint Charles, MO
| reply to jm
said by jm :
>Correct, you must cancel the SBC account.
And how do I do that when it's the primary account?
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Crypto
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join:2001-01-07
Saint Charles, MO
| reply to jm
said by jm :
Correct, once merged the only way to unmerge, is to cancel the email address.
And if it's cancelled, it will then tell you that you cannot re-create that address, because it's already 'taken'.
That's not really a solution. I mean, "delete both email addresses and then use a different one" doesnt really help me out any.
Additionally, this is my primary account, so I cant cancel it without cancelling my entire DSL service, and since I'm 1 month into a 12 month contract, that's not really an option either.
Doesnt it strike you as fairly rediculous that that's the only recourse to solving this problem?
Seriously, this is getting absolutely infuriating.
Something else that's infuriating me is dealing with tier 1 support people that cant understand english. Thanks rajamanistani, but I'm not buying that your name is 'victor'. Sorry.
I'm getting to be at my wits end here.
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jm
join:2003-09-21
Graceville, FL
·WildBlue
| reply to Gwailo
said by Gwailo :
Now I'm confused ... sbcj, do you mean you can't cancel the freebie Yahoo address but must cancel the SBC email address?
Correct, you must cancel the SBC account. |
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Gwailo
join:2000-07-16
Richardson, TX
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Now I'm confused ... sbcj, do you mean you can't cancel the freebie Yahoo address but must cancel the SBC email address? cbellers, if that is the case, hope it is not your primary address. Also seems to me there would be a way to "undo" it ... even though I've seen time and time again here that you can't. |
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