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Dig Cable

@cpe.net.cable.rogers

[Cable] Who gets 100% Digital Channels on Cable?

Do any of you have a Cable System that offers 100 percent of its channels in Digital. Meaning from ch-2 and up being all digital if you have a Digital Set-Top. My Cable company is starting to do this and I wonder if their were others. The analog can still be received if you dont have a box. Its basically a duplication of the analog tier in Digital.


58483323
Gurt me

join:2003-06-23
Normal, IL

Re: [Cable] Who gets 100% Digital Channels on Cabl

Nope, I'm pretty sure almost all cable systems in the country have analog channels 2-99. So how is Rogers cable? It must be cool to have all digital channels. Comcast is really looking forward to providing 100% digital.

cableguy619
Premium
join:2003-06-24
Chula Vista, CA

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reply to Dig Cable

Re: [Cable] Who gets 100% Digital Channels on Cable?

no one does as of yet.. the fcc has man dated as of january 1, 2007 that all networks provide at least a digital signal or 1080i(hdtv) across the US. In other words analog channels will no longer exist. It is on the way just a matter of win. Fcc has pushed this date back a few times already..

so only time will tell.. hope this helps a bit.

just a tip wait to buy that plasma tv.its gonna only get cheaper and dtv cable ready tv's will be the new standard


58483323
Gurt me

join:2003-06-23
Normal, IL

Re: [Cable] Who gets 100% Digital Channels on Cabl

But this doesn't apply to cable companies.


imrf
Premium
join:2002-06-06
Utica, MI

reply to cableguy619

said by cableguy619:
the fcc has man dated as of january 1, 2007 that all networks provide at least a digital signal or 1080i(hdtv) across the US.
To clarify this, the FCC has mandated that broadcasters send out a digital signal, it does not mean any form of HD. It can be SD(480i) and be digital. There is no ruling for any time frame for any cable company, they can do what they want with their channels.

cableguy619
Premium
join:2003-06-24
Chula Vista, CA

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reply to 58483323
lost you..what doesnt apply to cable companies..it applies to cable companies to the fact that they will be in the customers eyes the reason why the change is happening..

But yes it applies acroos the US to all cable companies. They are just a distributor of the signals, all in all it will be one major change for all networks and cable providers..

hope that answered that, I am trying to find the article of the fcc mandates on www.fcc.gov..



jjbobnm

@trw.com

reply to Dig Cable

Re: [Cable] Who gets 100% Digital Channels on Cable?

100% digital cable has nothing at all to do with the Digital OTA channels.

If all the OTA channels are digital, the cable companies can still use analogue, its up to them.


58483323
Gurt me

join:2003-06-23
Normal, IL

Re: [Cable] Who gets 100% Digital Channels on Cabl

I'm the sure cable companies want to switch to all digital to free up bandwidth. But they aren't going to do it now because of all the analog customers.

cableguy619
Premium
join:2003-06-24
Chula Vista, CA

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still havent found exactly what I was looking for, Ive seen it and read it on this site and it had been in the paper as well. Of course it doesnt mean it wont get pushed back, but here in pdf form you can read the article on a plan to speed up the process of the change to companies involved with the changes.. from networks to manufacturers of set tops

»ftp.fcc.gov/commissioners/powell···tion.pdf

just to show u the plan of the proposed change 1/01/07

not sure if you noticed but the have been pulling channels off of analog and putting them onto digital channels..

its on the way out, the date I have posted has been moved back about 4 times in the last 3 yrs, it may change again and it may not



imrf
Premium
join:2002-06-06
Utica, MI

That's fine, but did you read #3. It says that cable companies must provide up to 5 digital stations for free, that is it. Not all channels must be digital, just 5.


cableguy619
Premium
join:2003-06-24
Chula Vista, CA

Imrf I am just trying to tell you what I know for a fact, I think I told you that I am in the cable industry, have been giving the article to read from my employer concerning this and its been in the paper. If you read this was a proposal to help speed up the process, like I said this is their plan to make it happen faster. All their other plans just came with a date and nothing being done about it.

Ill find the fcc article sooner or later..gimem a few, reading through a ton of them on fcc.gov



imrf
Premium
join:2002-06-06
Utica, MI

I am in the cable industry too, there is NO mandate for ANY cable company to be all digital at any certain date, period. This topic has been beaten to death long before you became a member here. The only mandate is the the broadcasters to give the FCC back their analog spectrum, by making them go all digital. That has absolutely no effect on any cable company. Sales people at best Buy and Circuit City cite the same exact crap that you do, and state that they know this for a fact because they sell tvs. It doesn't mean squat, you and them do not understand what the FCC is talking about.


cableguy619
Premium
join:2003-06-24
Chula Vista, CA

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umm okay, im done..not arguing just stating the fact...

ive been a member for a while. on my old name daygoracer, but but I have no access to it after not using it for so long..

anyhow we will just wait til 2007 comes around..

not the exact document im looking for but supporting
»www.twice.com/article/CA422995?d···aking+Ne



Phoenix2088

join:2002-12-04
Strongsville, OH
kudos:1

Sorry to burst your bubble, but imrf See Profile is completely right.



Dig Cable

@cpe.net.cable.rogers

I wasn't referring to OTA or dropping analog signals on Cable.
I mean that some cable companies are duplicating the analog signals in digital from ch-2 to 99 so they can match the satellite guys with 100 percent digital reception if you have a digital set-top box. The analog can still be maintained for a non-digital subscriber.



Greg_Z
Premium
join:2001-08-08
Springfield, IL

reply to imrf
I am voting for your wording also imrf. You can tell the difference in some channels, but there has never been cold hard facts as to the exact date for total digital.
--
One man's customer loyalty is another man's miguided arrogance.



Greg_Z
Premium
join:2001-08-08
Springfield, IL

reply to Dig Cable

said by Dig Cable:
I wasn't referring to OTA or dropping analog signals on Cable.
I mean that some cable companies are duplicating the analog signals in digital from ch-2 to 99 so they can match the satellite guys with 100 percent digital reception if you have a digital set-top box. The analog can still be maintained for a non-digital subscriber.

Where are your proven facts?? Cable companies are not duplicating analog in digital to keep up with the Satellite companies. I have Digital Cable with Insight, but the only channels that are digital are the music channels, and the stuff coming out of computers at the headend for Insight, other than that I have over 100 channels of Analog.

Even with HDTV programming, it is not a total Digital conversion, due to the production costs to produce same.
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One man's customer loyalty is another man's miguided arrogance.


imrf
Premium
join:2002-06-06
Utica, MI

I have heard that some of the Canadian cable companies are doing this, and the OP is in Canada. Maybe his cable company is doing exactly what he says, it wouldn't really surprise me. The Canadian cable companies(for the most part) push new technology out faster and do things that are less greedy than the American cable companies do.

But on a side note, most of all the sat channels are still analog, they are just digitized in D*, E*, or VOOMs NOC. The sat companies get the same exact feed that the cable companies get.



Greg_Z
Premium
join:2001-08-08
Springfield, IL

said by imrf:
I have heard that some of the Canadian cable companies are doing this, and the OP is in Canada. Maybe his cable company is doing exactly what he says, it wouldn't really surprise me. The Canadian cable companies(for the most part) push new technology out faster and do things that are less greedy than the American cable companies do.

But on a side note, most of all the sat channels are still analog, they are just digitized in D*, E*, or VOOMs NOC. The sat companies get the same exact feed that the cable companies get.

I can agree with you on that imrf. I have never seen such bad tv output until I saw it on Dish and DirectTV. Voom had the best video output (all on component). Cable shows noise, due to sateration from the amount of amplification and correction that has to happen going from head end to house, but for all in all, I will stick with cable, due to if anything happens, the cost is lower and you do not have a un-godly dish hanging off of your house.
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One man's customer loyalty is another man's miguided arrogance.


lando58

@comcast.net

reply to Dig Cable

Re: [Cable] Who gets 100% Digital Channels on Cable?

Acually, Craig TV in Hawaii is 100% digital. It's not a pure cable system, but comes pretty close from the wireless antenna to the TV.
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