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Mele20
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Re: Opinions, please: eBates MoeMoneymaker
My actions are consistent with my words. I have not always used Proxo nor I have I always used FF but I didn't get any spyware during the years I used IE and no Proxo. I even had AOL dial up for two years and managed to stay clean then too. I do not use a software firewall and haven't for over two years. When I stopped using a software firewall, I had W98SE and had no hardware firewall. Everyone here predicted dire consequences. Ha! I was just fine. I do have a router now but if I didn't I would just tie XP down so that it doesn't need a firewall. I know how to do it and may do it anyway as I don't really care about networking the two computers. This way I can tie my W98SE box back down securely so I don't need even the router as I am not happy with the router.
I could easily turn off Proxo and use IE with complete confidence that I will not get any spyware. I use Proxo not for its security but because it stops gif animation which I hate as it triggers a migraine headache and I use it because it blocks ads. As for FF, I use it because it has tabbed browsing and other features I like. The better security is nice but that is not why I use it and Mozilla. I don't like IE. If I liked it I would use it. I could turn off my AV and not be concerned about getting viruses either.
As for my berating people, I haven't done that. Rather I have been berated for stating some obvious facts that some of you don't like to hear. I fail to see what my signature has to do with any of this. It regards survival of the individual spirit in the bleakest of circumstances and I am a survivor although, thank God, not of the Nazi death camps. I know that for instance you people in this thread can try and hurt me as much as you wish but I will survive because you cannot take from me my attitude ...you cannot defeat and break my spirit just as the Nazis could not break Victor Frankl's spirit. They took everything from him but the one truly important thing and that they could not take...his mental attitude in the face of such immense monstrosity and horror.
I have never advocated that users not learn about safe hex and that includes using safe browser settings and installing MS security patches, not using file and print sharing, etc.I have also never said users shouldn't come here to ask for help if they got infected. I simply think they do not need to rely on all these antispyware applications so they can continue their bad behavior that landed them in this forum in the first place. I believe they should modify their behavior so they don't need all these applications. I believe that business owners have some rights and that it is not the fault of the business owner if the computer user thinks he can have his cake and eat it also which is what many of you seem to believe is true. That is never true. You have the right to a different philosophy of life but while you accuse me of being rigid and wanting everyone to be like me you are doing exactly what you accuse me of and so is Eric.
I could refute every single thing you and eburger have said but it is a waste of my time. Many of you in this thread are witchhunters and fanatics. Eric is very emotionally involved in his witch hunting and he is very irrational on this subject. No wonder Mr.Isolani hasn't come to this thread and didn't bother to try and engage Eric in meaningful dialog. I suspect Eric that you started this thread not to get meaningful input since you have demonstrated that you cannot handle input that doesn't agree with your viewpoint without flaming the poster rather it seems obvious at this point that you started this thread for the purpose of getting other witchhunters to agree with you so you would feel justified in continuing your witchhunt and you could pat yourself on the back and tell yourself how "fair" you have been with eBates.
BTW, Eric I have read all your papers on privacy, etc. and I have always admired you until today. I will never forget how much help you and R2 gave me when I was trying to get corrupted SunJava installs off my 98SE box sometime back so your need to flame because I don't agree with your witchhunt surprises and saddens me. I am a premium member at Computer Cops and I go there every day, I am a senior member of Wilders Security and post there everyday. I also read the Net Integration forums several times a week. I test my knowledge by analyzing Hijack This posts before the experts see them and then compare to see how I am doing. I do quite well. I am well aware that spyware can be nasty but I still contend that this is due primarily to users thinking that computers are toasters and even when they rudely learn differently they, for the most part, refuse to change their behavior so that they can be safe without the need for all these antispyware applications,etc.
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| said by mele20 in »Re: Opinions, please: eBates MoeMoneymaker
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As for my berating people, I haven't done that.
said by same post:
Many of you in this thread are witchhunters and fanatics.
Thanks for making my point  Hope you get to feeling better ...
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Mele20
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| said by EGeezer  :
said by mele20 in »Re: Opinions, please: eBates MoeMoneymaker
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As for my berating people, I haven't done that.
said by same post:
Many of you in this thread are witchhunters and fanatics.
Thanks for making my point Hope you get to feeling better ...
How did I make your point? I stated a fact not an opinion. Only opinions can berate. Facts are facts.
BTW, I hope YOU feel better soon so your mind is working more clearly. 
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"Everything can be taken from a man or woman but one thing: the last of the human freedoms - to choose one's attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one's destiny." Victor Frankl - Man's Search for Meaning | |
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