Bill_MI
Bill In Michigan
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3 edits |  Awright! 3008K!
I can't believe 10 days ago I was struggling in safe mode 928/384. Then an outage of 2 days gets my line straightened out.
Today at 4:35pm.... 3008K!
Download Noise Margin dropped 17.0 to 13.5db.
First hop stayed at about 13msec.
Speakeasy Chicago speed now 2467/316
EDIT: Forgot 68% relative capacity occupation!
I have 10mbps/half-duplex in that line (monitoring with cheap old hub) to think about getting rid of.
Special Thanks to ElnkShaun (again)!  |
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Hall
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Dayton, OH | Let me know how sore your fingers get from keeping crossed.... |
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Bill_MI
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Royal Oak, MI | Hall, I'm having more problems with facial muscles. *&^%$#@ continuous smiles...  |
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Doctor Olds
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1 edit | reply to Bill_MI
Excellent News!!! Interleaved or Fast Path? 
Regards,
Doctor Olds |
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Bill_MI
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3 edits | Fast Path. Geeze, and with your interleave battle going on I forgot to mention it. Does that mean I have an old DSLAM card? 
Do you realize I have had the modem suspended from the basement ceiling just so I could have the minimum distance to the splitter (and thus no house electrical pollution) for at least 2 years? I recall it was worth 1db *maybe*. Time to clean it up. Hey, what do all these lights mean?
(pssst... don't tell anyone this EE suspended these light little modems by the RJ45 plug! ) |
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Doctor Olds
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1 edit | said by Bill_MI  :
Fast Path. Geeze, and with your interleave battle going on I forgot to mention it. Does that mean I have an old DSLAM card? :o
Looks like you are on a non-DMT8 card. Lucky devil. 
xsh> show dsl stat
--- DSL Status
DSL State - Up
Tx Rx
CRC Errors 0 2
FEC Errors 0 0
HEC Errors 0 8
NCD Errors 0 0
LCD Errors 0 0
LOS Errors - 0
SEF Errors - 0
--- ATU-R Channel Info
Current Tx Rate - 384000
Previous Tx Rate - 0
--- ATU-C Channel Info
Current Tx Rate - 3008000
Previous Tx Rate - 0
--- ATU-R Physical Layer Info
Current SNR Margin - 21.5
Current Attenuation - 31.5
Current Status:
No defects detected
No loss of framing detected
No loss of signal detected
No loss of power detected
No loss of signal quality detected
--- ATU-R Line Status
Line Coding - DMT
Line Type - Interleaved
Actual ADSL Mode - G.DMT
Requested ADSL Mode - Multi
Regards,
Doctor Olds |
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Hall
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Dayton, OH | Doc, do you game ?? If not, what's the big deal about being on interleave ?? Your line will certainly be much more stable. |
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Bill_MI
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| reply to Doctor Olds
Reading between the lines this stuck-in-interleave issue sounds like a SNAFU with new hardware integration. I hope it's not the ONLY problem or delay-to-resolution will be maximum. (sigh)
How's the numbers game? Two knowledgeable victims is better than one. Fifty would help. |
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Bill_MI
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Royal Oak, MI | reply to Hall
Hall, I think I can share Doc's feelings. If it were me I'd be thinking: "It's dumb and shouldn't be that way!" |
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Doctor Olds
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| reply to Hall
I do on occasion, but it doesn't matter as I am going experience of having ~3,600 ft copper, 4+ previous years of Fast Path service on Bellsouth and 40 to 50+ days per PPPoE session that my line doesn't need additional latency (or additional stability) from being on Interleave for no technical reason other than it's a default setting that should be changed. 
I didn't need it when I was uncapped for a test period.
Regards,
Doctor Olds |
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TheHelpful1
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Upper Marlboro, MD | Wait wait wait.....3008kbps on your modem stat page or from an actual speed test?
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MxxCon
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| said by TheHelpful1 :
Wait wait wait.....3008kbps on your modem stat page or from an actual speed test?
did you ready anything beyond thread title?:p
3008kbit is modem's sync rate
quote:
Speakeasy Chicago speed now 2467/316
is what he got from speed test
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Doctor Olds
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1 edit | reply to TheHelpful1
quote:
Download Noise Margin dropped 17.0 to 13.5db.
First hop stayed at about 13msec.
Speakeasy Chicago speed now 2467/316
EDIT: Forgot 68% relative capacity occupation!
Sync 3008, Speed Test 2467.
{EDIT: Too slow for MxxCon } LOL |
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Doctor Olds
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| reply to Doctor Olds
Update!!
said by Doctor Olds :
xsh> show dsl stat
--- ATU-R Physical Layer Info
Current SNR Margin - 21.5
Current Attenuation - 31.5
--- ATU-R Line Status
Line Coding - DMT
Line Type - Interleaved
Actual ADSL Mode - G.DMT
Requested ADSL Mode - Multi
xsh> show dsl stat
--- ATU-R Physical Layer Info
Current SNR Margin - 21.5
Current Attenuation - 31.0
--- ATU-R Line Status
Line Coding - DMT
Line Type - Fast
Actual ADSL Mode - G.DMT
Requested ADSL Mode - Multi
Regards,
Doctor Olds |
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TheHelpful1
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1 edit | reply to MxxCon
said by MxxCon :
did you ready anything beyond thread title?
3008kbit is modem's sync rate
Nope  Just skimmed it which made me curious because Max speed i've been able to hit is »/speedtests/25···90726667 and »/speedtests/24···105219/1
:edit:
Just saw Doc's updated post when i refreshed. Thumbs up man! Finally got the interleaved/fast fixed.
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Doctor Olds
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1 edit | Yes, your speeds are very good.
Yes, Fast Mode is in the house!!
Regards,
Doctor Olds |
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Bill_MI
Bill In Michigan
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Royal Oak, MI
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| Been playing around with my network setup. I took out the old 10M/half hub and surprisingly got no increase in speed. My top end is 2503 on every router and connection I have. I expected the old collision-happy hub to be a small detriment at this speed.
Boy, speed tests sure changed in the last 6 months. Some need Sun's engine - Firefox seems distinctly hampered a small amount by it, never achieving MSIE's speed. |
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Hall
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1 edit | reply to Doctor Olds
Okay, you switched from Interleave to Fast yet your noise margins didn't change (a -0.5 drop is negligible). That doesn't make sense...
What were your pings like in either mode ?? |
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Bill_MI
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1 edit | Why would noise margin change? It's the analog measure. Interleave shouldn't affect it (just data).
It happens in Covad's safe mode because of the rate change. I only saw this once when rates were the same and recall no noise margin change. |
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Hall
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Dayton, OH | Ahhh, maybe that's what I'm confusing.... Safe Mode is reduced speed *and* switch to interleave. You're right that the speed reduction alone is what's responsible for the change in SNR. |
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