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Mactron
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No more shopping channels ?

No more shopping channels ? Oh that will break my heart. Right along with subsidizing all that sport stuff. If this comes to pass, my force fed 100+ Chanel package will shrink to 20-30 channels, along with my Monthly bill. YEA !!
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regryni
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join:2004-06-27
Louisville, KY

I would like a la carte pricing I could eliminate about 125 of the 200 channels I have so I dont have to buy a whole pack just to get 2-4 channels I like in the package. This would likely wipe out $25-40 off my digital cable bill.
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lazarus_

join:2002-08-31
Resolute, NU

reply to Mactron
A la carte should only be allowed in "all digital" systems.. Of course CATV companies should offer bundles. (more you have the more you save) then they should offer a la carte and charge those people actual cost, then a % for profit and a la carte fees. If someone only wants 10 channels, they should be able to get those 10 channels, but they should still get charged more money to "customize" instead of taking pre selected bundles and theme packs.

I.E Basic cable cost $23.50 CDN here for 30-40 channels in a pre determiner lineup.
But going a la carte for 10 channels of the 300 offered should be at least $23.50 if not more..

People bitch about a la carte until its available, then they will bitch about how un-fair the cost is to the pre determined bundles..
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Paul CJ

@bellsouth.net
lazarus_99, as a analog cable viewer myself, why do you want to leave us analog viewers out in the cold on this issue?

hottboiinnc
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
If this does go thru you will be required to have some sort of set-top box so it will filter out your tv channels that you are not allowed to get.


lazarus_

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said by hottboiinnc See Profile:
If this does go thru you will be required to have some sort of set-top box so it will filter out your tv channels that you are not allowed to get.

Yep, analogue cant be filtered like digital, hence why A la carte cant be offered. If it was possible to filter the channels people dont want in analogue, I would be all for it.
I know Cogeco plans on going all digital (cloning all the analogue over to digital) and leaving Analogue as it is now.
This way people too cheap/no need to go digital dont need too and Digital people could go a la carte. (of course all the analogue channels would get filtered out when they go a la carte, needing a digital receiver per television)

This way all people will be happy.(of course until analogue people realize that analogue channels are slowly getting removed from the line up to free up bandwidth.)
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reply to Mactron
said by Mactron See Profile:
my force fed 100+ Chanel package will shrink to 20-30 channels, along with my Monthly bill. YEA !!

We could certainly do with out the other 150 odd channels of crap we are forced to pay for just to get the 6 channels we watch.

hottboiinnc
ME

join:2003-10-15
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reply to lazarus_
Actually maybe analog cable can be filtered if they put in Analog set-top boxes. If the cable ops can find them.

Other wise look for having a digital box.


lazarus_

join:2002-08-31
Resolute, NU

said by hottboiinnc See Profile:
Actually maybe analog cable can be filtered if they put in Analog set-top boxes. If the cable ops can find them.

Other wise look for having a digital box.

I dont think such a device exists or will exist.. Companies like Motorola would tell a cable operator to go all digital if they want to filter out channels.
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hottboiinnc
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Cleveland, OH
·Time Warner Cable
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True.

I actually think Mot still has the analog equipment still listed on their site.

i know SA doesnt. They've moved all digital.

I would like to pick my channels. I watch maybe a hole 20 channels out of 250 of them.

And i have digital already with 1 digital box though. But i'll end up having to get more if this goes thru.


Paul_CJ

@bellsouth.net
reply to hottboiinnc
Actually you can filter it at the cable poll outside your home on their end like the use to do with analog premium like HBO and Showtime.

hottboiinnc
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
·Time Warner Cable
·buckeye cable

Yes but why do that when they can just control it with a box.

The box would be easier to use. and if areas still havent updated their systems to digital cable service its time for them to do it.

especially the little local companies that offer shitty service and sky high prices cause they're allowed to offer it at that price. especially if they're a mutal company like the one where my aunt and uncle like.

they get cable and it worse than watching tv on rabbit ears.


major marco
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reply to Mactron
said by Mactron See Profile:
No more shopping channels ? Oh that will break my heart. Right along with subsidizing all that sport stuff. If this comes to pass, my force fed 100+ Chanel package will shrink to 20-30 channels, along with my Monthly bill. YEA !!

I am also quite heartbroken about possibly losing the shopping channels and overpriced sports channels as well as all the other garbage on the lineup I'm forced to pay for (cough cough Spanish language Gigante Sabado! channels cough).
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pcscdma
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reply to Paul_CJ
The amount of signal traps you can put on for analog cable is somewhat limited. It just looks silly when you start putting a whole bunch of 6Mhz traps on a cable.
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pcscdma
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reply to Mactron
The shopping channels pay the cable & satellite operators to show them.
There is probably a channel that people like that Disney happens to own. When people stop getting ESPN, watch the Disney Channel's a la carte price skyrocket. Kids are hooked on that kind of thing. Take it away and you will have one upset kid!
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hottboiinnc
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
reply to pcscdma
Yah thats why you break out the old analog cable boxes and start doing it that way or start using new cable lines and digital cable boxes.


bogosmash

@comcast.net

reply to Paul_CJ
Actually you can filter it at the cable poll outside your home on their end like the use to do with analog premium like HBO and Showtime.


The only problem is every time you decided to change your service they'd have to come out and change a multitude of filters, and if a channel you wanted was in between a bunch you don't, there may be some overlap and that channel wouldn't come in so clear. I would imagine an analog filter bank for 200+ channels would be pretty big and full of easy to lose/remove little bits.

BlueSkye

join:2002-10-25
Los Angeles, CA

reply to lazarus_
From an economic / pricing perspective, this is not rocket science. For the cable companies to state simply that prices will go up, is inaccurate and overly simplistic.

Right now (and for the sake of explanation, disregard tiered pricing), someone who watches one channel for one hour per month pays the same as a person who watches 50 channels for 500 hours per month.

If the cable companies were to go to a la carte pricing (either by availability of channels, hours of usage or both), and assuming that they would price to maintain their current level of revenue--well obviously, prices would go up for the heavy user and down for the light user.

Personally, that seems fairer to me. However, similar pricing discussions on broadband in this forum (should broadband pricing vary with broadband usage?) have provoked heated responses both pro and con.
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