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kd6cae
P2p Shouldn't Be A Crime
join:2001-08-27
Lancaster, CA
 ·RoadRunner Cable
 ·DSL EXTREME
| users should have the choice to open blocked ports
I don't mind the blocking of ports necessarily, but what I do mind is that users that want to run their own mail server for instance aren't given the choice of having port 25 open. You shouldn't have to change a port that a server runs on just because of a few people! I actually wouldn't feel to strongly on this if it were any other service such as web or FTP for instance, but as I mentioned in an earlier thread not long ago, the way email works is like this. If I send a message to my friends mail server which BTW I can no longer do, the mail server I send through looks for the MX record for the domain to which the message is destined for. The MX record shows the IP address of the mail server that is to receive incomming messages for the domain. Nowhere in the MX record does it say what port on the server it is to connect to! This is because all servers know that they are to connect to port 25 on the MX host! for a time a couple years back I ran my own mail server because my ISP's mail server was awful and would either never deliver messages I sent, or I'd email someone about plans for something we were gonna do that day, and they'd receive the message 3 days later! when I ran my own mail server, mail always got where it was suppose to when it was suppose to, 100 percent of the time! So although my friend could change the port his SMTP server listens on, that would only allow me to send outgoing mail from his domain, but anyone wanting to send mail to my friend? Well their messages would never ever get to his server! They should be punishing the users of zombies, not everyone, I mean if that's how IsP's what to handle things and they don't want us running our own servers where we have control of what's going on with our servers instead of them, just block globally ports 1-65535 at the ISP, and I garuntaee the complaints will flood in. It's the same internet whether you're on cable, DSL, a T1 or an OC12! So if an ISP wants to restrict their users and what they can do on the internet, then at least give those that want to run their own servers and those users only the chance to do so! | |
BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
clubs:
·Comcast
| Re: users should have the choice to open blocked p
said by kd6cae  :
I don't mind the blocking of ports necessarily, but what I do mind is that users that want to run their own mail server for instance aren't given the choice of having port 25 open. You shouldn't have to change a port that a server runs on just because of a few people! I actually wouldn't feel to strongly on this if it were any other service such as web or FTP for instance, but as I mentioned in an earlier thread not long ago, the way email works is like this. If I send a message to my friends mail server which BTW I can no longer do, the mail server I send through looks for the MX record for the domain to which the message is destined for. The MX record shows the IP address of the mail server that is to receive incomming messages for the domain. Nowhere in the MX record does it say what port on the server it is to connect to! This is because all servers know that they are to connect to port 25 on the MX host! for a time a couple years back I ran my own mail server because my ISP's mail server was awful and would either never deliver messages I sent, or I'd email someone about plans for something we were gonna do that day, and they'd receive the message 3 days later! when I ran my own mail server, mail always got where it was suppose to when it was suppose to, 100 percent of the time! So although my friend could change the port his SMTP server listens on, that would only allow me to send outgoing mail from his domain, but anyone wanting to send mail to my friend? Well their messages would never ever get to his server! They should be punishing the users of zombies, not everyone, I mean if that's how IsP's what to handle things and they don't want us running our own servers where we have control of what's going on with our servers instead of them, just block globally ports 1-65535 at the ISP, and I garuntaee the complaints will flood in. It's the same internet whether you're on cable, DSL, a T1 or an OC12! So if an ISP wants to restrict their users and what they can do on the internet, then at least give those that want to run their own servers and those users only the chance to do so!
They do it's called a business package. It's not really hard to understand. You pay the extra money for the ability to run servers. Simple.
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ilvhse
join:2003-06-21
Boiceville, NY
| Not everyone has the option for a business package. If your like me, and have road runner their business package cost 2 times more for about the same speed. They do offer a static i.p, But my DHCP address hasn't changed in a year. I have a speed of 3.5/384 their comparable package called "tier 4" with speeds of 4/384 is really retarded. who in their right mind pays $179/m for that? I see no point to a static i.p since you cant really upload or serve anyone with that upload crap. Anyway I think OOL has it great with incredible speeds(used OOL @ friends house). Sending a couple files to a friend (without abuse) is fast. | |
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