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reub2000
Premium
join:2001-12-28
Evanston, IL

Re: Any restriction is a service downgrade

They can switch to DSL. I know speakeasy advertises that they don't block ports.
permalink · 2004-08-23 12:57:06 · Reply to this
kpatz
MY HEAD A SPLODE
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join:2003-06-13
Manchester, NH

Re: Any restriction is a service downgrade

said by reub2000 See Profile:
They can switch to DSL. I know speakeasy advertises that they don't block ports.
Not everyone can get DSL, or Speakeasy. I for one would love to see cable and DSL providers offer a "Power User" tier that allows servers (at least to an extent) and no port blocking, at maybe $5-10 higher than the standard residential service. Then those of us who want or need to use email servers other than the ISP's have a choice.
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permalink · 2004-08-23 13:17:09 · Print · Reply to this

wolfox
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join:2002-11-27
Dunnellon, FL

Re: Any restriction is a service downgrade

If anything, it would cost $LESS$. Think about it - without having to monitor, wave a big stick over your Internet experience, etc. Just leaving you alone does not cost any more dough...
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permalink · 2004-08-23 13:56:51 · Reply to this

nixen
Rockin' the Boxen
Premium
join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA
·Cox HSI
·Speakeasy

Re: Any restriction is a service downgrade

said by wolfox See Profile:
If anything, it would cost $LESS$. Think about it - without having to monitor, wave a big stick over your Internet experience, etc. Just leaving you alone does not cost any more dough...
Pushing a new rule to your routers and firewalls isn't exactly super expensive. And, it's not like it's a recurring cost. It's definitely a lower cost than responding to complaints about unblocked compromised systems.

-tom
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"There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't."
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permalink · 2004-08-23 22:59:11 · Print · Reply to this
Shady Bimmer
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join:2001-12-03
Northport, NY
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·Verizon FIOS
·Optimum Online
said by wolfox See Profile:
If anything, it would cost $LESS$. Think about it - without having to monitor, wave a big stick over your Internet experience, etc. Just leaving you alone does not cost any more dough...
Except for one gaping hole - what would stop a spammer/abuser from spending an extra few bucks and continue their abuse? If it were really that easy OOL could lower their costs for a higher net profit.

Business service is OOL's answer. No it is not cheap, but it provides a static IP that the subscriber can't change making it very easy to identify, track, and ultimately prevent abusers. Unfortunately providing the level of service BOOL offers incurrs additional costs, resulting in a higher subscription rate.
permalink · 2004-08-23 23:15:46 · Print · Reply to this
budke

join:2003-07-22
Rye, NY

Re: Any restriction is a service downgrade

That's nice, but OOL doesn't offer static IPs (yet, but don't rule in out in the infinite future acording to them). They also do other filtering other than port 25 (inbound 53 for one, and the general inability to do srcprt 53 work. I'm sure there are others, but $40 more a month for the ability to send mail out on 25 and run a backup server on 25 on optonline isn't worth the price.
permalink · 2004-09-15 22:52:16 · Reply to this

nixen
Rockin' the Boxen
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Alexandria, VA
·Cox HSI
·Speakeasy
said by kpatz See Profile:
said by reub2000 See Profile:
They can switch to DSL. I know speakeasy advertises that they don't block ports.
Not everyone can get DSL, or Speakeasy. I for one would love to see cable and DSL providers offer a "Power User" tier that allows servers (at least to an extent) and no port blocking, at maybe $5-10 higher than the standard residential service. Then those of us who want or need to use email servers other than the ISP's have a choice.
Many cable and DSL services already do offer such services. They just generally fall under the business or SOHO product names.

-tom
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"There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't."
"That's only 2 types of people, moron"
permalink · 2004-08-23 23:00:19 · Print · Reply to this
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