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ced06

join:2004-03-12
Towanda, PA

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I would consider it a switching point. Considering SP2 is nearly 300MB, it would take me 30 hours to download it (assuming I average 2-3 kB/sec on my 28.8k).

But...once again, there are no broadband options in my town (that will reach me). Sigh.

hottboiinnc
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
A switching point from Dial-up or from the OS? you are not required to download SP2 but you also will still have a lot of unprotected holes that were fixed that they found.

It took me about 30minutes on a 3.0 RR cable connection


ryanthadude2
Blah

join:2004-01-24
Walkerton, IN

reply to ced06
said by ced06 See Profile:
But...once again, there are no broadband options in my town (that will reach me). Sigh.
That's the fact of life for a lot of us. I ended up moving to a smaller town just to be able to get cable, and luckily it's been pretty bulletproof so far (knocks on wood).

Just find it frustrating that dialup users still have the majority of connections, but every thing's seems like it's going broadband. Don't ya just get the feeling that if you don't have broadband, you're in the dark ages?


Rhobite
Premium
join:2002-02-24
Cambridge, MA
clubs:
reply to ced06
No, that's just the network install of SP2 for IT professionals. MS estimates that the express install only needs to download 80-90MB.
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ryanthadude2
Blah

join:2004-01-24
Walkerton, IN

said by Rhobite See Profile:
No, that's just the network install of SP2 for IT professionals. MS estimates that the express install only needs to download 80-90MB.

Still, 80-90MB takes quite a while for people without broadband. There is quite a few people who wouldn't even give it a thought to download.


Rhobite
Premium
join:2002-02-24
Cambridge, MA
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said by ryanthadude2 See Profile:
said by Rhobite See Profile:
No, that's just the network install of SP2 for IT professionals. MS estimates that the express install only needs to download 80-90MB.

Still, 80-90MB takes quite a while for people without broadband. There is quite a few people who wouldn't even give it a thought to download.

Well, with Microsoft's "trickle" update it would come down over the course of a number of hours. The user isn't really affected by the download, it happens in the background. So after 12 hours or so of being connected to the Internet, the service pack is ready to install. Pretty neat, IMO.
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hottboiinnc
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
Yah thats one good thing about that. But how many people on Dial-up can keep connections for long periods of time anyway.

Even without being connected for the full 12hours it still is a long time for a dial-up user.


Rhobite
Premium
join:2002-02-24
Cambridge, MA
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If you disconnect it resumes where it left off. You could download it over the course of a few days or even weeks.
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hottboiinnc
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
Yes but with Microsoft who says there won't be another one then.

even though they have said less updates.

ced06

join:2004-03-12
Towanda, PA

reply to Rhobite
Ok, sorry. 80-90MB still takes me 8-10 hours to download. It becomes a real pain in the ass when you have to leave your computer on overnight for days and days just to install a security update. In all truth, dialup truely is WORTHLESS.

And yes, I can compare dialup to living in the dark ages. Anything outside instant messenging and browsing slimmed down websites is not worth it (no streaming video/audio, no online games, no flash based games/webpages, no VOIP...it just sucks ass).

Thank god I'll be moving out in 3 years.


wolfox
Gentle Wolfox

join:2002-11-27
Dunnellon, FL

reply to hottboiinnc
Luckily, SP installs are not cumulative like they used to be. So say you skipped SP2, and SP3 manages to come along while you managed to safely dodge the bullet. Between the intelligent background file transfer service built into XP and even the *slowest* connection - you can still manage to keep up to date. Really, this is not an issue at all guys. Just be sure not to smack the Windows Update icon out of your systray when it asks for attention.
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hottboiinnc
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
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that maybe true but the updates released for the SPs are still coming out fast. Do not up date yours for a year and see how many you get to download and try downloading them on dial-up. Thats a lot of updates on Dial-up and will take a long time.

Even though SP2 uses idle bandwidth it is still going to slow down the dial-up users somewhat. anything you download on the internet slows down your Internet connection. Especially with dial-up.


wolfox
Gentle Wolfox

join:2002-11-27
Dunnellon, FL

Hence the term "Intelligent Network Background Service". It does not actively use the connection while *you* surf. It's a set and forget technology. It uses idle bandwidth only to gather and assemble the patches. If set up properly, unnoticeable to the user and only asks for intervention when the packs are assembled and ready to install. Unless, you watch your modem. It will look like activity when there should be none. But once you click a URL, download e-mail, etc. it stops, only to resume when the machine is idle again.
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