bs259
Premium
join:2000-08-19
Little Neck, NY
| reply to Glass2u
Re: My FIOS install
For anybody who is interested I have started a new topic thread cable (docsis 3.0) vs FIOS at the following link please feel free to visit and post your thoughts.
»[TWC] cable (DOCSIS 3.0) vs verizon (DSL,, FIOS) |
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Glass2u
join:2004-12-24
35364
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Overlay can be unpredictable timewise due to permits, access to easements, obstructions, engineering problems, etc.
Once the distribution network is fully installed, spliced and tested, they seem to get right about the business of selling FIOS.
Keller started selling to the public at about 85% to 95% completion of infrastructure, but it was a special case I think because that's where it all started for them.
Verizon is putting forth a monster effort to get it rolled out as fast as possible, far as I can tell. They are swarming around like flies laying fiber, splicing fiber, installing FIOS in homes.
Hang in there. |
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inquisitor
join:2002-12-08
Beverly Hills, CA
| reply to Glass2u
how long does it take for the whole process take to be done with? Verizon started laying the fiber down on the 23rd of dec and i havent seen them since. For instance once they are down laying the fiber he told me that are going to have splicers splice to the house once that is down how much longer til i can start using their service? |
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Glass2u
join:2004-12-24
35364 | reply to JakCrow
Yes they do, and then some. The overhead on FIOS is unreal.
I saw the Kellerpoint Gamelab setup and they had 14 countem...I said 14, 30 meg systems all running to one room.
No problem. |
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Woof Woof
I Miss Brother Iz
join:2004-09-01
Keller, TX
| reply to kshymkiw
What are you basing this on? Sure, an ISP can reset it whenever they like, and maybe there are routers that do it, but I have yet to encounter either. I've had SBC PPoE, various flavors or ISDN (PPP) and now Verizon FIOS (PPoE) and none have changed IP addresses unless I lost power or tinkered with the router/modem.
Maybe I have just been lucky, but since we are talking about FIOS, and I have FIOS, it doesn't renew every 24 hours with my Linksys Router. Believe me, I would know... I check it every few days.
Of course the first thing I check on the router is to make sure it is set to not idle disconnect. |
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kshymkiw
join:2004-12-21
Columbus, OH | reply to Woof Woof
your router shouyld refresh every 24 hours, and should pull a diffrent IP everytime. That is the reason Verizon is set up for PPPoE, for secrity reasons, they want you to pull a diffrent IP everytime |
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Woof Woof
I Miss Brother Iz
join:2004-09-01
Keller, TX | reply to kshymkiw
Changes every 24 hours? I'm at 3 weeks and counting. My last change was only because a reboot of the router caused by my changing wireless channels. |
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kshymkiw
join:2004-12-21
Columbus, OH
| reply to lmac103
said by lmac103  :Are there any restrictions with the 15/5 service? Are servers allowed? What kind of server?
Pointless torun a server from a PPPoE connection, because your IP changes every 24 hours..... |
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VZFios
@verizon.com | reply to JakCrow
As a Verizon employee for Fios yes we do  And thats not the top speed we offer |
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lmac103
join:2001-08-04
Trenton, NJ | reply to VZInstructor
Are there any restrictions with the 15/5 service? Are servers allowed? |
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Guspaz
Guspaz
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
 ·Colbanet
| reply to Joe Schmoe Texas
I have a server that I pay $49 US per month for. It comes with 1200GB/mth of bandwidth. Obviously using up 130GB in a month on a connection that costs the same as my server isn't going to bankrupt the ISP.
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The_Fixer
@Dial1.Wee
|  reply to JakCrow
bandwith? uhm, i donno if anyone has mentioned this so you might have missed it... ITS FIBER DUMBASS. oh, but you say the CO might not have enough bandwith? Uhm, are you aware the national backbone is only made out of 3 fiber lines and verizon usually has 2 fiber lines from location to loacation. i mean, it did almost put lucent out of buisness but, hey ITS FIBER DUMBASS.
like, totally, it travels on light and stuff?!?!!
btw...your fiber is faster than my dorm connection was last year, and your upload is faster than my dedicated is now (im cheap) |
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Shuttle832
@verizon.net
| reply to JakCrow
Actually they do, The FIOS network is using DWDM and the front end is a Passive Optical Network, hence the only choke point becomes the off load of the fiber onto the CO network. The CO network on the other hand consist of the OLT, the aggregation Switch/Router, and the PSTN gateway device. 14Mbps is nothing as compared to the top speed of this network, and with DWDM being used the amount of traffic needed to actually slow this network down is more then what people can do today. if more bandwidth is needed they just would have to assign the traffic to another wavelength of light and the wavelength would act as an entirely new network. They are now dealing in wavelengths of light determining bandwidth not time or frequency as confined by the speed of electrons through a solid conductor (sub velocity of light). In any event they have the bandwidth to support the 32 customers per splitter unit. |
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mboy
Premium
join:2001-04-13
Little Falls, NJ | reply to JakCrow
Yeah they do.
BTW, what is their TOS on hosting servers and such? I will drop OOL for the 15/2 for the same price in a heartbeat!
I probably won't have it avail to me for a couple of years tho. |
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finalmillenium
@dsl.gen
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Verizon owns the largest fiber optic connection in the world. Several OC 512 lines as of 3 years ago. With the new advancements in fiber transmission tech. the old fiber can be upgraded to over OC 1024 per line, not per trunk. SO yes they have the backend to support it |
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Joe Schmoe Texas
@mindspring.com
| reply to JakCrow
I wish I could say I hate you, but I work with 3 OC48s, now since I have access to these, I know what bandwidth costs, I don't see this lasting at all. I keep thinking about what my high school economics teacher used to say, "There is no such thing as a free lunch, someone has to pay." This is unfortunatly true, while you may be able to get this at a cheap price since you are a resident, buisness owners are being charged for T1s at 1.5mb at rates that are sometimes 10 times as much. This is how we can burst to these speeds on our cable modems and dsl lines, and apparently now fiber to the curb, small buisness pays for it. I will definatly have to re-negotiate some contracts if this becomes the norm... wtf am I saying, I do hate you. |
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jbjetta
Premium
join:2004-07-23
Laurel, MD | reply to VZInstructor
soon is such a subjective word. if VZ does what it is known to do, I will be the last place off my CO to be upgraded.
So I have a few years before im willing to get all hyped up about this new VZ offerings comming. |
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VZInstructor
join:2004-10-12
Southlake, TX
| reply to JakCrow
The network will handle this speed because it's fiber from the home to the central office. From the CO, it hooks directly into the internet. The only place to slow it down is the server that they would be accessing. I have been teaching FTTP for over 2 years for Verizon. My training center is training all of the techs that are installing the service in Texas. The customers are amazed at what they get when we are done with the install and all for $39.95 a month for 5M download and 2M upload. They can get 15M and 3M for $49.95 and if they are really hardcore into gaming, 30M and 5M for $199.95 per month. Wait until video is available!!! Coming soon to your neighborhood if you are a Verizon customer. |
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b00gz
join:2004-08-29
Dublin, OH
1 edit | reply to JakCrow
-- Sorry for the double post |
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AJ023
join:2001-12-25
Forest Hills, NY | reply to b00gz
30MBPS only with FIOS only with Verizon and only for $199 a month! Cheaper than a T1! |
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