jsouth
Jsouth
join:2000-12-12
Wichita, KS
| reply to B
Re: What a relief. But...
I like the filters at the library. Kids have unrestricted access to those computers and they should be filtered. If you want to see nudie pics do it at home. For other stuff such as legit research into say breast cancer usually all you have to do is let the librarian know and show proof of your age and they will allow sites to bypass the filters. |
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Goober
join:2000-12-17
Naperville, IL
1 edit | I'll second the support (FOR filters) on that one. |
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C0unterfeit
join:2000-10-23
Lodi, NJ | reply to jsouth
So what should the age say to allow a "legit search?" |
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bit_junkie
join:2004-05-04
Maricopa, AZ
| said by C0unterfeit  :
So what should the age say to allow a "legit search?"
well if you mean legit as in research for school projects and such for children, i think that should be left up to parents what is appropriate for their kids and at what age.
now if you mean legit as in a legal adult website, 18 or older,which i believe is the legal age in most of the country |
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jsouth
Jsouth
join:2000-12-12
Wichita, KS | Agreed and I also thing for kids under 15 the parents should have to be present with the child. |
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B
Premium,MVM
join:2000-10-28
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First, "kids" should not have unsupervised access to ANYTHING. The activities of children at a library should be monitored by their parents, guardians, AND/OR librarians.
Second, "nudie pics" have nothing to do with it -- only the truly creepy would surf for porn in a public library.
It has to do with little things like human rights, the first amendment, a free society, effective distribution of human knowledge, watching the watchers, unintended consequences, little things like that.
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technick
Premium
join:2000-12-16
Loganville, GA
| quote:
Second, "nudie pics" have nothing to do with it -- only the truly creepy would surf for porn in a public library.
I know this is off topic, but I was at my local kinko's a few weeks ago, there was this black guy sitting in the back of the computer area looking at porn... thought it was funny |
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Combat Chuck
Too Many Cannibals
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join:2001-11-29
Erie, PA
| reply to B
said by B :
Second, "nudie pics" have nothing to do with it -- only the truly creepy would surf for porn in a public library.
Trust me, you'd be surprised.
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ReneMH
join:2001-11-27
Cockeysville, MD | reply to jsouth
You have to be of legal age to research brest cancer ? |
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B
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join:2000-10-28
1 edit | Effectively, yes! The point is that no filter can ever perform with 100% (or even 90%) accuracy in blocking all possibly "objectionable" material but ALSO allow reasonable access to the sum of human knowledge.
This also subtly penalizes those already least privileged -- those resorting to the library for Internet access.
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nixen
Rockin' the Boxen
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join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA
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said by C0unterfeit :
So what should the age say to allow a "legit search?"
Assuming they aren't already of sufficient age to buy Playboy at the local news stand or legally see an R-rated movie unescorted?
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B
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join:2000-10-28
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I think the simple act of a dour librarian standing over your shoulder should be more than enough to keep both children and perverts in line. It's not as if the public computer terminals sit in little phone booths with shades.
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nixen
Rockin' the Boxen
Premium
join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA | I dunno, some of those librarians can be pretty hot...
-tom |
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rit56
join:2000-12-01
New York, NY | reply to technick
how do you know he was black? |
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Goober
join:2000-12-17
Naperville, IL | I would imagine from his skin color or hair texture. That's usually how people tell. |
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jsouth
Jsouth
join:2000-12-12
Wichita, KS | reply to ReneMH
No. It's just easier to keep nudie pics away from the kids that just want to see them and tell the librarian they are doing "research". |
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jsouth
Jsouth
join:2000-12-12
Wichita, KS
| reply to B
It might have nothing to do with "nudie pics" as you put it, but the library is a public place. Not everyone wants to look at what you think you should be able to see. If there is some thing that you really want to see that some might find offensive, do it at home. Not only does this keep any "lawsuits" from happening but it also helps keep down the spam and spyware if people canot run willy nilly all over the net. The computers are their computers, not yours. |
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Desdinova
join:2003-01-26
Gaithersburg, MD
| reply to nixen
In the U.S. anyone at any age can legally see an R-rated movie if the theatre management wants to admit them. Movie ratings (except those containg pornographic content) are guidelines suggested by a civilian organization (the MPAA) that has no legal authority. |
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B
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join:2000-10-28
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said by jsouth :
It might have nothing to do with "nudie pics" as you put it, but the library is a public place. Not everyone wants to look at what you think you should be able to see. If there is some thing that you really want to see that some might find offensive, do it at home. Not only does this keep any "lawsuits" from happening but it also helps keep down the spam and spyware if people canot run willy nilly all over the net. The computers are their computers, not yours.
You're kidding, right? How long have you lived in this country? You are aware that ANYTHING you might want to read or view in a library is most likely offensive to SOMEONE somewhere, right? You're not honestly suggesting that the only things that should be available for viewing in a public library are those things that are offensive to NO ONE, are you? I guess you are: »www.kansas.com/mld/eagle/news/lo···2807.htm
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jsouth
Jsouth
join:2000-12-12
Wichita, KS
| Offensive possibly but winnable in a court case no chance. That and keeping porn away from kids. Yes I do live with a library that censors the net. So what. if you are of age and it's not porn the librarians will open the site up all you have to do is ask. No problem. Also what do cds have to do with internet? Most people I know burn cds and give them to friends. |
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