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Re: What a relief. But...

said by jsouth See Profile:
It might have nothing to do with "nudie pics" as you put it, but the library is a public place. Not everyone wants to look at what you think you should be able to see. If there is some thing that you really want to see that some might find offensive, do it at home. Not only does this keep any "lawsuits" from happening but it also helps keep down the spam and spyware if people canot run willy nilly all over the net. The computers are their computers, not yours.

You're kidding, right? How long have you lived in this country? You are aware that ANYTHING you might want to read or view in a library is most likely offensive to SOMEONE somewhere, right? You're not honestly suggesting that the only things that should be available for viewing in a public library are those things that are offensive to NO ONE, are you? I guess you are: »www.kansas.com/mld/eagle/news/lo···2807.htm

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Offensive possibly but winnable in a court case no chance. That and keeping porn away from kids. Yes I do live with a library that censors the net. So what. if you are of age and it's not porn the librarians will open the site up all you have to do is ask. No problem. Also what do cds have to do with internet? Most people I know burn cds and give them to friends.

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Please remember that I'm not drawing a distinction among books, Internet, CD's, magazines, filmstrips, or any other library resources. Though I certainly don't think Internet access should be policed more heavily than the contents of the shelves (though it seems to be in many cases).

My point is that there is PLENTY of stuff in a public library that might be objectionable to someone. Books have been banned and burned for far too long. (I certainly don't want to rehash Twain and Vonnegut and Steinbeck and Salinger et al. here.) New media is not really very different (not that I particularly appreciate most new music or most movies or web sites, but that's the point too!).

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My point is that they are not censoring anything. The filters just keep things that children should not see out of their reach. Anything an adult wants with the exception of porn are there for the asking. All you have to do is ask.

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said by jsouth See Profile:
My point is that they are not censoring anything.

I'm sorry, but you're just not seeing it -- of COURSE they're censoring -- you just said so! They're censoring much of the Internet for children ("things that children should not see", whatever those are -- as defined by the censorware companies, I assume), and they are also apparently permanently censoring all "porn"ography!

Not to mention that having to ask permission to use unencumbered access is a bit intrusive and embarrassing, kind of like doing price checks on condoms over the store loudspeaker.

I'm not saying libraries shouldn't be selective, or that Hott Wett Slutz 2005 should be on the magazine rack, I'm just trying to define the discussion better.

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