viperpa33s
Why Me?
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join:2002-12-20
Bradenton, FL
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| This opens a whole new can of worms
You really need GPS to know if an employee is doing there job or not? If a an employee is suppose to get a certain job done and it's not, can't the employer put 2 and 2 together? An employer knows whether your doing your job or not without GPS.
This opens a whole new can of worms. We have companies using GPS phones. We have companies using key loggers on the computers. We have a car rental company install GPS trackers in there cars to keep track of customers. We have Progressive Insurance telling you if you install a little box to keep track of your driving, you get your insurance lowered. We have the city of Chicago installing camera's all over the city. We had the problem with Wal Mart using RFID's, keeping track of what you buy. This doesn't include spyware and adware on your computer.
What's the next big thing going to be? |
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fundamentalz
The Basics
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join:2004-04-30
Moorpark, CA
| I think people are becoming too obsessed with privacy. First, people always assume the worst (my boss is gonna spy on me). I dont think this concept is going to work, and that that if companies have to resort to this they have other underlying isues, but i feel privacy is overrated. So what if any of the companies above do that stuff, its not like they have the time or the resources to keep track of all that stuff. So what if someone knows where you are, why does it matter? If its somewhere that you shouldnt be, then dont go. just about anywhere you go there will be people so why is it that some people know, any some people dont
Maybe its just me, but everytime something like this happens, everyone gets upset, when really its not a big deal. |
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Tabula Rasa
join:2004-03-30
Gatineau, QC | I take it you've never read 1984? |
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fundamentalz
The Basics
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join:2004-04-30
Moorpark, CA | reply to fundamentalz
I have, but i kept in mind it is a fantasy story. Because an author imagined it, doesnt mean it will happen, or is any indication of what would happen. And that is an EXTREME case, not the normal. |
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jsouth
Jsouth
join:2000-12-12
Wichita, KS
| reply to viperpa33s
Who cares?? It's the companies phone, not yours. It's the companies computer not yours. Same with the rental car. People say they aren't leaving the city and do anyway. You don't have to use the black box or even Progessive. Just drive better etc. Would you rather pay for cameras or have more crime? Who cares if WalMart uses RFID tags to track what you buy. Unless you use your credit card all of the time they don't have your name or anything. RFID tags also don't do anything after you leave the store. Again who cares? |
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chesney09
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join:2004-07-26
Redford, MI
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| The day will come where you will care because all of that information will be being used for other purposes. It's no different than signing up and giving your information on a website.. The fine print ALMOST always say you are agreeing that they can use the information for marketing and their own use as well as their "partners". It just never ends. |
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drewber
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join:2003-06-04
New Bedford, IL
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I am required to be on call 24x7 on the company cell phone though. Lets say i take a day off work. It doesnt mean i am guarenteed the day off. Means i am off unless a emergency arises and i still have to carry the phone with me.
What if I took a personal day to go to a job interview.
When i leave work, my private life remains private. I do not small talk like "how was your weekend etc"
I like my privacy. If I want to goto a strip club, i dont want a sexual harrasment suit brought aginst me cause the person monitoring my gps was a woman.
Have you ever heard the term dont mix business with pleasure? |
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zoebisch01
join:2003-11-10
Julian, PA
| reply to fundamentalz
said by fundamentalz  :
I think people are becoming too obsessed with privacy. First, people always assume the worst (my boss is gonna spy on me). I dont think this concept is going to work, and that that if companies have to resort to this they have other underlying isues, but i feel privacy is overrated. So what if any of the companies above do that stuff, its not like they have the time or the resources to keep track of all that stuff. So what if someone knows where you are, why does it matter? If its somewhere that you shouldnt be, then dont go. just about anywhere you go there will be people so why is it that some people know, any some people dont
Maybe its just me, but everytime something like this happens, everyone gets upset, when really its not a big deal.
I see your point, but the thing that is key is having management that can judge properly what the employee is doing. It's kind of like doing a rolling stop at a stop sign in the middle of Ohio, in the middle of the night. Yeah, technically you broke the law...but what is the purpose of that law? To protect you and others. Now suppose a cop is waiting, hidden in the cornfield and imagine these two scenarios: 1) He pulls you over and explains to you that you should be obeying the law, but that he realizes hey there is nobody around and that you slowed down to make sure there is no traffic coming, and that because it is night you can easily see that there are no other vehicles...this cop lets you off with a warning. 2) He pulls you over and fines you $200 because you broke the law.
Once in effect, policies and laws leave those at the receiving end of them at the mercy of the enforcement agent (and their biases) which may or may not be a good thing. Even if you are where you should be all the time, what happens (and it will) the one time you slip up? I would hope the companies that adopt such policies have the wisdom to enforce them in a manner befitting the offense.
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jsouth
Jsouth
join:2000-12-12
Wichita, KS
| reply to viperpa33s
If you have ever had a credit card or received a check someone already knows more about you than you think. The info is already out there and it's more than likely being used for purposes other than it was intended. So what? Also drewber you couldn't be sued for having your cell phone and going to a strip club even if you are on call 24x7 because you still are on your own time until they call you and your report to where your supposed to be. A woman monitoring the GPS wouldn't matter. You didn't harass her, she may not like people going there but she couldn't sue, besides you don't go to any of those dirty strip clubs. Now do you?  |
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