Re: Daaaaaaaannnng... - dslreports.com

bored_in_nh join:2003-01-04 Stamping Ground, KY ·RoadRunner Cable	reply to Estragon Re: I call bullshit! In Greenville, competition is who can recycle the most and hug the highest number of trees :D:D I miss NH. Here in Stamping Ground, competition is who can grow the coolest mullet or drive the loudest pickup truck. Wierd though, in a town of 700 or so, rural Kentucky, I can choose from 2 wireless providers, cable, and DSL. -- Honor Indian Treaties
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Estragon join:2003-06-20 Greenville, NH ·Fairpoint Communic.. ·MV Communications,..	reply to dslwanter Characterizing the market We have wandered away from the point. I dispute the claim that we have "big" competitive market. What we have is a very patchy market. Depending upon circumstances, you can have a very competitive market, a very restricted market, or no market at all.
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dslwanter Why would I want DSL? I have FTTH Premium join:2002-12-16 Lowellville, OH ·Armstrong Zoom In.. ·AT&T Midwest 1 edit	reply to Estragon Re: I call bullshit! said by Estragon : said by dslwanter : First off your 56k is not allowed to fun at full speed due to regulations. Where broadband is available my friend, there is a competitive market, what the hell do you call all the 3rd party vendors? My my company was bell south I would definitely look at those 3rd party vendors. And where broadband is not available, there are no 3rd party vendors. And no 2nd party vendors. Just plain no vendors. In rural NH "competition" is not delivering broadband to anybody. A boatload of money can get you a T1 line, but I don't know of anyone in town who actually goes that route. Did I not start that off with "where broadband is available?" -- Maaaannn you wanna come in the garage and see my merchandise?
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Estragon join:2003-06-20 Greenville, NH ·Fairpoint Communic.. ·MV Communications,..	reply to dslwanter said by dslwanter : First off your 56k is not allowed to fun at full speed due to regulations. Where broadband is available my friend, there is a competitive market, what the hell do you call all the 3rd party vendors? My my company was bell south I would definitely look at those 3rd party vendors. And where broadband is not available, there are no 3rd party vendors. And no 2nd party vendors. Just plain no vendors. In rural NH "competition" is not delivering broadband to anybody. A boatload of money can get you a T1 line, but I don't know of anyone in town who actually goes that route.
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dslwanter Why would I want DSL? I have FTTH Premium join:2002-12-16 Lowellville, OH ·Armstrong Zoom In.. ·AT&T Midwest	reply to Estragon said by Estragon : said by dslwanter : This is the U.S.A. We actually have a big competitive market. Bullshit! What competitive market? There are NO competitors for my broadband dollar. Not one! I'd see a 2X speed improvement if Verizon would let my 56K modem run at full speed. First off your 56k is not allowed to fun at full speed due to regulations. Where broadband is available my friend, there is a competitive market, what the hell do you call all the 3rd party vendors? My my company was bell south I would definitely look at those 3rd party vendors. -- Maaaannn you wanna come in the garage and see my merchandise?
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Estragon join:2003-06-20 Greenville, NH ·Fairpoint Communic.. ·MV Communications,..	reply to dslwanter said by dslwanter : This is the U.S.A. We actually have a big competitive market. Bullshit! What competitive market? There are NO competitors for my broadband dollar. Not one! I'd see a 2X speed improvement if Verizon would let my 56K modem run at full speed.
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ParanoiaInc join:2002-08-28 Tucker, GA	reply to dslwanter Re: Daaaaaaaannnng... said by dslwanter : said by zno : said by dslwanter : I get that same speed with SBC for $26.95 a month. what's your point? koreans get 8Mbps for less that $27. different markets different regulations different companies different prices. This isn't Korea! This is the U.S.A. We actually have a big competitive market. My point? What can't you see it? Read it then or perhaps I should type it for you again... I get that same speed with SBC for $26.95 a month. I think you missed his point, but he's already replied with claification of his point. I'm in Atlanta and SBC is no where in Atlanta. So, what is the point of dslwanter commenting about what he is getting if no one in Bellsouth's nine-state reason could never benefit from what he is getting. Its not the southeast so its not applicable. Besides, when someone is operating at 2-3 times the number of revenue sources its easier sometimes to operate at a lower margin. While I am surprised SBC is offering a $26.95 and wish anyone capable of getting it all the best, until its an offer in the southeast where I live its as pointless as what the Koreans are getting.
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zno join:2002-01-08 Atlanta, GA	reply to dslwanter i know we're paying the premium for ours. hopefully SBC will drive Comcast/Charter/etc to lower their HSI products 'nationwide.' this is probably the only way that BS would reduce their prices even lower. -- got anti-virus and firewall?
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dslwanter Why would I want DSL? I have FTTH Premium join:2002-12-16 Lowellville, OH ·Armstrong Zoom In.. ·AT&T Midwest	reply to zno said by zno : This isn't SBC. This is BellSouth. SBC is welcome to come here and offer us cheaper products but until then we're comparing oranges and apples here. I was just stating I get lower prices. Why not try another competitor? Again, my point it I can get it cheaper. It's good to see them lower prices for you but it should be much lower. And again I say Daaaaaaaaaannnng, because I get it for such a dirt cheap price. -- Maaaannn you wanna come in the garage and see my merchandise?
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zno join:2002-01-08 Atlanta, GA	reply to dslwanter This isn't SBC. This is BellSouth. SBC is welcome to come here and offer us cheaper products but until then we're comparing oranges and apples here. -- got anti-virus and firewall?
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dslwanter Why would I want DSL? I have FTTH Premium join:2002-12-16 Lowellville, OH ·Armstrong Zoom In.. ·AT&T Midwest	reply to zno said by zno : said by dslwanter : I get that same speed with SBC for $26.95 a month. what's your point? koreans get 8Mbps for less that $27. different markets different regulations different companies different prices. This isn't Korea! This is the U.S.A. We actually have a big competitive market. My point? What can't you see it? Read it then or perhaps I should type it for you again... I get that same speed with SBC for $26.95 a month. -- Maaaannn you wanna come in the garage and see my merchandise?
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