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Zechnubis

join:2003-06-28
Sweden

Re: DI-624 Rev C - FINAL firmware 2.50 on US site!

is the 2.52 only for U.S routers, or can it be used on routers bought in europe? since it was found on a greek server? i got rev C2
According to my site (swedish d-link) 2.50 is the newest. But at www.dlink.com it says that the 2.50 is ONLY for U.S routers, and will harm your router and void warranty if applied.

Talon88
The One

join:2003-08-13
Toronto

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Re: DI-624 Rev C - FINAL firmware 2.50 on US site!

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It work on all DI-624 Rev C,
But not DI-624+ -- (plus)

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»DI-624 Firmware update w/ Crash Recovery Step by S
»[Info] Some Clue about DI-624 Reboot
ClemP5

join:2002-09-14
Santa Clarita, CA
Hi!
I just went back to the D-Link support site for the DI-624 to see if the 2.52 firmware was on the US site and noticed something very strange. Under the 'Revision Info' column, at the bottom was the following:
"If you have the VDI-624 (revC3), do NOT upgrade firmware. Contact your ISP for an upgrade."
This is new. It wasn't there last week when the new version was posted. Does anyone have a clue as to what the &*(( this means. I've already upgraded as I'm sure have many others. I've scoured the site to try and find anything regarding a model VDI-624... nothing. Is this a typo? I just received my DI-624 rev C3 as a replacement for my original DI-624. It was a replacement from D-Link due to rebooting.

It still reboots, regardless of whether I kept it at the installed firmware of 2.42 or after upgrading to 2.50.

Love to hear from anyone knowing what this all means!

Clem

Talon88
The One

join:2003-08-13
Toronto

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Re: DI-624 Rev C - FINAL firmware 2.50 on US site!

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I guess VDI-624 (revC3) is a special Hardware
version that D-Link provide to specific ISP.

If any one have a VDI-624 (revC3) router,
please report here & tell us where do you get it.



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»DI-624 Firmware update w/ Crash Recovery Step by S
»[Info] Some Clue about DI-624 Reboot
mekelly1

join:2004-07-14
Knoxville, TN

Re: DI-624 Rev C - FINAL firmware 2.50 on US site!

what's release 2.52 do? I don't see any other info on it? is it a beta release?
Packet0

join:2004-11-16
Seattle, WA
maybe this is already answered and old news

Its a router specific to Verizon called VDI 624 according to Dlink's response. Can anyone tell me more about the v252 FW?

aarono8

join:2003-01-10
Ottawa, ON
i'm not even going to try 2.52, as 2.50 and 2.44 both cause me to get PADT tags from my ISP, I bet 50$ canadian that 2.52 does as well...
someone else can be the guinea pig.

I simply want the security fixes from 2.50, in 2.42, lets call it 2.42+

DLINK... just do it already
Chimmy3

join:2004-09-24
Rosedale, NY

Re: DI-624 Rev C - FINAL firmware 2.50 on US site!

Sigh now my router has started rebooting again recently. Its not very often (about once every two days), but I've definately confirmed that its due solely to wired traffic.
It seems that the router is still unstable. I'm going to try a reflash of 2.50 before I move up to 2.52 or back down to 2.42 to see if anything has changed.
petsounds

join:2002-01-25
Santa Monica, CA
Well I've upgraded back to 2.50. With 2.42 I was getting reboots every few minutes. 2.50 seems to have stopped that for the most part, even though I'm getting a constant barrage of paeDisconnect messages. The only differences between the last time I tried 2.50 is that I turned off Gaming Mode and I turned off Turbo (I'm only running straight SuperG). However, I'm still getting terrible throughput rates when sending over the wireless LAN..it tops out around 1200k/sec. Does anyone have any ideas how to improve those transfer rates? Or is my rev. C1 the problem.

jonazen
Be Like Water My Friend
Premium
join:2004-02-18
Princeton Junction, NJ

Re: DI-624 Rev C - FINAL firmware 2.50 on US site!

@petsounds:

The slow wireless throughput sure sounds like what I've been suffering with for weeks, despite trying several different drivers for the dwl-g520, several different fw's for the di-624 C2, and numerous combinations of settings.

For a while I thought it the fact the I had added SP2 to my pc's - but the flakey behavior I'm seeing in my di-624 leads me to believe that there's something wrong with that device itself.
--

Jon
The Strong Group, Inc.
Chimmy3

join:2004-09-24
Rosedale, NY

Re: DI-624 Rev C - FINAL firmware 2.50 on US site!

My wireless card got messed up with a Code 10 error (device fails to start). I'm pretty sure its a win xp sp2 problem due to numerous postings (with varying devices) and the fact that it loads fine in safe mode.

However, before that got messed up for mysterious reasons I was getting some pretty good throughput with the following settings (and it seemed that wireless wasn't slowing down):
Di-624 Rev.C3 f/w 2.50
Turbo mode static G 802.11g only
TX rate: 108
Gaming Mode disabled
UPNP disabled (though not sure it mattered)
WAN locked at 100mbps (its connected to my LAN)

With the above settings wired speed got faster and seemed more stable, until the reboots started happening again. Creeping slowdowns still occured for wireless so I set the following:
RTS: 500
CTS: Always

These settings are supposed to deal handle interference better. It seemed to help a little, with no noticeable speed drop.

Finally the last setting I was trying was
Beacon: 1000.

So far the router hasn't slowed down with the beacon interval set to 1000. However, I can't claim this fixed it, since the router experienced reboots in the meantime (I think unrelated b/c reboots started before changing that setting). Anyhow this was about the time my wireless card's registry settings killed themselves, so I can't test them any further. If anyone wants to experiment with these settings please let me know your results.
ClemP5

join:2002-09-14
Santa Clarita, CA

Re: DI-624 Rev C - FINAL firmware 2.50 on US site!

Chimmy,
I saw another post that also suggested locking the TX rate at 108. I'm using a DI-624 C3 with 2.50 and a DWL-G650 with Atheros 3.3.0.150 drivers. However, everytime I set the TX rate to 108, the G650 couldn't find the 624. It's as if it didn't exist. If I set it to anything slower, the G650 found it, but when I checked the 624, the TX rate had gone back to 'AUTO'. Any ideas?

Thanks,
Clem
rp_guy

join:2001-06-19
Canada
after 1 week of 2.50, i am forced to revert back to stable 2.42.
my problem:
router locked up out of random, and then after power cycle/reset, 10 seconds later it would lock up again.

going back to 2.42 solved the problem.. (this is not the reboot problem as i've only had that intermittently)

ANoni

@cox.net

Re: DI-624 Rev C - FINAL firmware 2.50 on US site!

Reboot problem if it truly exists is not a firmware issue, but the router (hardware) itself. Either most of you guys got a lemon router or I havent been patient enough or I happen to have one of the non-rebooting, works just fine router. What do you guys think? I have only had my Rev C3 router for about 31 days and I think its a pertty good router.

My router works just fine.

Rev C3 with 2.50.

my configuration:

Linksys cable modem

WAN select - 100 Mbps.
Disable Gaming Mode.
WPA-PSK eabled
Disable Super G mode.
MAC filters enabled.
Short Preamble.
Channel 1
Lock the NIC on ALL PCs to 100 Full Duplex.
Set Static IPs on all computers OUTSIDE THE DHCP RANGE.
(I still do not understand why everyone sets static IPs in the DHCP range!!)
Change the LAN IP on the router.
Disable DHCP Server in the router.
Enable Discard ping from WAN side.
Latest drivers and firmware on all networking devices and I always make sure antivirus is disabled when installing drivers.
The router NEEDS to be hard reset and power cycled after a firmware upgrade.
MTU was lowered to 1492 (I have cable).
DSL users need to set it at 1432 - 1452 whatever works best.
If u guys gonna use all 802.11G cards set the TX rate to 54 in the router. Bs and Gs Auto mode in the router.
Locked the speed on all wireless cards to either 54 or 11.
DONT USE XPS WIRELESS UTILITY, USE the manufactures wireless utility.
Dont blame SP2 for problems.
Disable all software firewalls.
All Windows Updates.
No spyware and no viruses.
Any wireless device needs to have the speed locked to whatever is applicable: ex pRINT SERVER.

I must of miss something, but if you guys try all of the above and stilll have problems then you guys have a lemon router thats does not work consistently.

just my 2 cents.
Chimmy3

join:2004-09-24
Rosedale, NY

Re: DI-624 Rev C - FINAL firmware 2.50 on US site!

Anoni:

Are you running a p2p app that stresses the router? like edonkey or emule? I use it to stress test my router and it does reboot.
Secondly, would you know if it rebooted? When it reboots its not always obvious unless you happen to be using the connection. Since you don't have DHCP enabled on your router, the period you would notice the service interruption would most likely be very short. The easiest way to check is to check if you actually have about 30 days of logs.

Actually my router reboots infrequently as of now, but I have forced it to reboot by causing a high amount of traffic over the wireless connection + traffic over the wired connection. The router definately rebooted often under 2.42 though (about once every 10 minutes).

my MTU rates are set at 1500 (cable), I set this according to the fragmentation tests and confirmed that the optimum setting for my configuration was 1500. Since I'm not actually using my Di-624 as a gateway it shouldn't matter anyway.

Talon88
The One

join:2003-08-13
Toronto

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ANoni, finally, I see you are writing some
good info instead of just saying "My DI-624
is good".......

Also, for other peoples that have reboot problem,
Is it really a big problem for you guys that the
router reboot itself once every 1-2 days? Even
it's reboot, it reconnect within second, Why is
this so important to you guys.... I just
wanna know.......

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dscline

join:2001-09-01
Atlanta, GA

Re: DI-624 Rev C - FINAL firmware 2.50 on US site!

said by Talon88:

:::
Also, for other peoples that have reboot problem,
Is it really a big problem for you guys that the
router reboot itself once every 1-2 days?
Well, it certainly wouldn't be preferable, as it would be a big problem if it happened in the middle of an online game, or while capturing streaming music. But if it DID only happen every 1-2 days, I could probably grudgingly live with it. But for me, the reboots were sometimes as frequent as several times a minute. That almost makes the thing useless.
dscline

join:2001-09-01
Atlanta, GA
said by ANoni:

Reboot problem if it truly exists is not a firmware issue, but the router (hardware) itself. Either most of you guys got a lemon router or I havent been patient enough or I happen to have one of the non-rebooting, works just fine router.
Or, you simply aren't operating your router under conditions that are causing the reboots. Personally, I expect the cause of my reboots is interference. There is another network on channel 6 that is just barely close enough to show up sometimes, though it's very weak, and drops in & out. It certainly wasn't strong enough to cause performance issues on my network. But I was having constant reboots. I finally moved to channel 1 (which also necessitated turning off turbo). I haven't had a single reboot since a did that five days ago - a record for uptime to date. If interference IS a contributing factor, that would help explain why people like jonazen, who had success with this router for quite some time, is now having problems. A neighbor could have gotten a new cordless phone, new networks could have popped up in the area, or whatever. And if interference is a factor, then that's a design flaw in the router, or firmware... interference SHOULD cause wireless performance hits, or even wireless connection drops, but it should NOT cause the router to reboot. The 2.4Ghz band is quite crowded, any device using that range should be designed to deal with interference gracefully, not just reboot!
Chimmy3

join:2004-09-24
Rosedale, NY

Re: DI-624 Rev C - FINAL firmware 2.50 on US site!

dscline: I've caused the router to reboot with purely wired traffic, so I doubt that interference is the sole cause of reboots. However, the router does seem to be more susceptable to reboots if heavy wired and wireless traffic occurs.

Talon: the problem with the reboots is that it doesn't just happen during low traffic or no traffic... in fact that would almost be preferable as it would fix the creeping slowdown issues.
it happens during periods of heavy traffic... which obviously means it will disrupt whatever was running at the time. So it becomes quite annoying when you are streaming video, music or playing games. Despite the fact that the downtime is small, it is enough to disconnect you if you are running a game, and will definately cause video and music will stutter.
dscline

join:2001-09-01
Atlanta, GA

Re: DI-624 Rev C - FINAL firmware 2.50 on US site!

Yes, I suspect there is likely more than one cause to the rebooting issue. There seems to be many people having the problem under very different circumstances. Though I must add, having only wired traffic wouldn't necessarily mean the issue wasn't caused by wireless interference. Did you have wireless turned off on the router, or did you just not have any of your clients connected? Even if wireless were turned off on the router, we don't KNOW that it actually turns off its receiving circuits - we just know it won't let any wireless clients connect.

But as I said, there are most likely multiple causes to the reboot. Some can "make" it reboot by passing high traffic through it. In my case, it would reboot on it's own with no traffic at all.

ANoni

@cox.net

Re: DI-624 Rev C - FINAL firmware 2.50 on US site!

Hey Chimmy3;

Yes, I do put my router under stress. I use Kazaa Lite and I've tested my router downloading lots of stuff, not just 10 or so things downloading at one time, but a lot more at the same time and I also have an FTP server setup. I think everyone should lower down the MTU just a little bit to make up for the "real world" performance.

I have only had my router or about 25 days or so, I just HOPE it performs this way in the next6 months.

No reboots SO FAR!

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
Chimmy3

join:2004-09-24
Rosedale, NY

Re: DI-624 Rev C - FINAL firmware 2.50 on US site!

I've used Kazaa lite before, but I stopped using it since it became an unreliable source. However it operates slightly different from emule/edonkey. I can only verify it definately reboots from edonkey, maybe b/c of the way edonkey gathers sources. If I remember correctly, kazaa uses multiple sources but only makes a small number of connections per file (i think generally around 20-30 total). Edonkey makes about 50-150 depending on how it is configured.

Try using that edonkey/emule. Especially since as dlink claimed in one of their firmware fixes to specifically fix the problem with that app.

Lastly, since I"m not using my router as a gateway, the MTU rate shouldn't be a factor.

Also for everyone who is experiencing reboot problems, are you using 1 computer at a time or multiple? I've only ever noticed reboots when using multiple computers.
dscline

join:2001-09-01
Atlanta, GA

Re: DI-624 Rev C - FINAL firmware 2.50 on US site!

said by Chimmy3:

... for everyone who is experiencing reboot problems, are you using 1 computer at a time or multiple?
Both. I've noticed it when only one (wired) computer was powered on, and it wasn't even accessing the network. Just sitting there doing nothing, and the "network disconnected" or "cable unplugged", or whatever that message pop-up would keep appearing, then go away. I started accessing the Log each time, and would see that it coincided with a reboot. If I would do it right away, I would catch it so early that the time still hadn't updated itself.
juancho100

join:2004-11-11
0000
dscline> How can I change to channel 1?
Max2

join:2004-02-26
Reviews:
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ANomi:
Glad your router/config works for you and hope your 31 days of success continues. I had three months of success and others have reported longer periods ( 10 months ). I'm convinced the DI-624 C2 degrades with time of use and others with your C3 have reported similar problems.
Re' your config: most users brought because they thought they could use all/most of the adv features, your happy with less, great if it meets your needs.
BTW if you haven't checked " Notice " in the log menu you won't see the wireless disconnect ( paeDisconnect ) which on my unit occurs in 0.01 seconds. I would appreciate your posting your full log menu checks: System Activity, Debug info, Attacks, Dropped Packets and Notice.

Thanks and continued good luck

lordhick

@gink.org
I don't see much talk about trying other Globalsuntech firmware - especially the ones from Topcom and KCorp, who both also OEM the same board.

Also these other versions of the firmware have the added benefit of SNMP and syslog support.

The Globalsuntech internal version number is also interesting to compare:

NML_dl_250.MEM: 3.0.1.12, 12:00, 10 Aug, 2004, Build 1039
NML_dl_252.MEM: 3.3.0.156, 12:10, 14 Oct, 2004, Build 0001
NML_kc_164.MEM: 3.3.0.156, 15:10, 11 Oct, 2004, Build 0001
NML_top_161.MEM: 3.3.0.136, 12:00, 10 Aug, 2004, Build 2003
NML_top_164.MEM: 3.3.0.156, 15:10, 11 Oct, 2004, Build 0001

jonazen
Be Like Water My Friend
Premium
join:2004-02-18
Princeton Junction, NJ

Re: DI-624 Rev C - FINAL firmware 2.50 on US site!

To be clear: are you suggesting that these firmware versions will, in fact, run properly on a di-624 rev C?
--

Jon
The Strong Group, Inc.

aarono8

join:2003-01-10
Ottawa, ON
too bad no one will touch the issue of PADT tags, from my ISP, with firmware rev 2.44 or higher.

this causes my IP to get released, and the router then tries to reconnect... and the cycle goes on and on.

DShad

@92-200-24.mc.videotr

Re: DI-624 Rev C - FINAL firmware 2.50 on US site!

Got the exact same thing here with v2.50 and Videotron.

Did you find some answers?
Shrekslady
Premium
join:2004-11-06
Bakersfield, CA
Hi everyone, I am posting here for the first time. I have been reading pages and pages of comments about home networking problems and at least I now know that I am NOT ALONE in my misery!

I have been trying (for several weeks now) to get a home network going. I have a D-Link Router DI-624 Rev. C1, and a wireless PCI Adapter DWL-G520 which I have installed in this desktop computer running Windows 98SE. My ISP is "SBC Yahoo DSL". They said I must set my router up using the PPPoE option with a Dynamic PPPoE setting. I had to have them "bridge" my router (SpeedStream 5100 that they provided), because it used the same "192.168.0.1" to be accessed as the router.

I downloaded and installed the FW ver. 2.50 and installed the adapter in the only available slot. One of the 3 slots appears to be used by the card for the internal modem. The other slot is empty, but I can not install the adapter in it, due to some other "something with wires coming out of it" being attached to the board in a place that will not allow me to insert it. (I'm sorry, I don't really know much about the insides of computers!)

There are two lights on the adapter card, one marked POWER and the other ACTIVITY. Most of the time, they both go off and on simultaneously (in sync), but sometimes (when the router is "restarting") they switch to going off and on alternately. Neither one has ever stayed on "solid".

My problem is, that as long as I keep a cable between the router (LAN #1 for eg.) and this computer (the Ethernet adapter), I can surf the web as much as I want and everything is very very fast. As far as I can tell, everything "looks like" it should be working correctly. The info on the router "utility" shows the wireless connection. The DCHP screen shows the router has assigned an IP to the wireless adapter (as well as the Ethernet card). The DWL-G520 Configuration Utility shows the connection. Unfortunately, as soon as I disconnect the cable and try to "go wireless", everything goes wrong! Not only am I unable to connect to the internet, I have trouble navigating between tabs and screens within the router "utility"! After about a minute, I get "The page cannot be displayed", but if I click "refresh" it will come up, but I am not able to make ANY changes (not even to "set the time")! Even if I hook the cable back up, these problems still occur.

I have always been forced to do a hard reset on the router to be able to once again surf the web using the cable! This has been going on for several weeks now. I have talked to D-Link Support Staff at least a dozen times, sometimes for hours at a time while they have me "try this" and "try that". Some of them were even Level 3 Techs!

These are some of the answers that they have come up with:

The router is possibly defective. (I can not RMA it, proof of purchase no longer available. Outside of warranty period anyway.)

You might need to update the "Bios" on your computer. (I did some research on this, found out it would not be free. It was late on a Friday night and I didn't want to wait till they opened again on Monday, so I abandoned the idea.)

I might need to reformat my hard drive and reinstall Windows 98SE. (They had no specific reason for this except that they could not think of anything else to help me. I have not done this yet, as it is such a daunting task and I'm not sure if I could even FIND the discs to reload it! Don't ask...)

The wireless card may be defective. (I exchanged it and am having the same exact problems!)

One person at D-Link told me that he thought that doing a “Winsock Fix” would solve all my problems. I asked him what that was and how I would do it and he said "Google it". I researched it on Google, and found out that it involves editing the Registry Keys. I'm not totally computer illiterate, but I'm not sure if I have the nerve to attempt that kind of thing. I don't have very good luck, and "Murphy's Law" has been hanging onto my coat tails with a vengeance these past few weeks!!

Anyway, before I had a chance to actually do anything about it, a 3rd Level Tech from D-Link called me back and we were on the phone for about 3 solid hours! He said that he had never heard of the "Winsock" issue. Nothing he had me do worked at all. He asked me to "let him know" if I did the "Winsock Fix" and it worked!

This has been going on for so long now, that I'm about at my wits end! I am very stubborn and do not easily "give up" on things. I don't like things to get the best of me. I have quite a bit of patience and will try and retry over and over again. It's just getting to the point of being ridiculous!

The info on the D-Link website and on the product boxes go on about how "easy" it is to set up a wireless network and that you can be surfing in "minutes"! Yeah, right!

In all of the reading I have done on the internet in the past few weeks, trying to find anything to help me, I seem to remember something about the slot in the computer needing to be a "bus" slot, that it's the only kind that a wireless PCI slot will work with. Does anyone know anything about this? How would I tell if the slot is a "bus" slot anyway?

By the way, I believe the router is working, (to some extent) due to the fact that we also have an Apple Laptop computer and have been able to establish a wireless connection and surf the web on more than one occasion.

I had no prior knowledge of how to set up a network until I started trying to put this one together. I don't know how to "configure the router" other than a few basic settings. This is how I have it currently set up:

DCHP Server: Enabled (Using the "default" starting and ending IP addresses and Lease Time)

Discard PING from WAN side: Enabled

UPNP Settings: Disabled (Previously Enabled till tonight.)

Gaming Mode: Disabled

PPTP: Disabled (Previously Enabled till tonight.)

IPSec: Disabled (Previously Enabled till tonight.)

WAN Select: 10/100Mbps Auto (Previously 10Mbps till tonight.)

Wireless Radio: ON

Channel: Auto Select

Super G Mode: Disabled

Extended Range Mode: Disabled (I'm confused as to what this actually does.)

802.11g Only Mode: Disabled

SSID Broadcast: Enabled

Security: WPA-PSK (With a long and "tricky" Passphrase.)

I also tried to set up MAC filters, but was told to try to get the wireless connection going first, then go back later and set these up. I read in one of the threads here, that I need to make sure that the first filter is for the wireless adapter, is that correct?

I am also wondering about the fact that since there are TWO adapters, the Ethernet and the wireless one, maybe the router (or system) is "confused". (I know I am!) Although, if I remove the cable, that should make it clear that I want to be able to use the wireless connection! I read somewhere on this site, that someone said that they had to uninstall their Ethernet adapter in order for their wireless adapter (connection) to work. I can't physically remove it, because it is "built into the board". The computer was not bought retail, it was built by a man that has his own computer business. I have tried to avoid getting him involved, due to not wanting to have to spend a lot of money. I did just today call and leave a couple of messages for him, but he has not answered them yet.

One thing in particular has me really puzzled right now. Before I even started to make this post, I was reading posts on this site (I still had the cable attached at that time.) and on another site also. I decided to once again, unhook the cable and try to go wireless. Since I did, I am again having the problems navigating around the router "utility", I can not access any other web site on the internet, BUT, I have been able to go to different pages on this website, and the several screens required to "register" to be able to post this message! How can I do that? (I had never been to them before, so I didn't have any cookies or other such settings for these pages!)

Of course I haven't actually tried to post this message yet, so I don't know if it will work or not. It's just strange that I have been able to navigate on this site, and before, whenever I was already on a site and disconnected the cable, anywhere else I tried to go, was fruitless!

I'm so confused!

Anyway, I'm sorry that this has turned out to be SO LONG, but I have always been one to make sure to I provided enough details!

Oh, and when I look at the router log, I too have had the "pae Disconnected" messages, but I'm getting them about every 15 SECONDS!!!!!

Any help anyone can give me to help me get my wireless connection UP AND RUNNING, will be greatly appreciated! Then, I suppose I will have to join the rest of you and be perplexed about the rebooting and slow "throughput" (whatever that means!)

Thanks in advance for reading this huge post and for any help you may be able to provide!


dlinksufferer

@east.verizon.ne

Re: DI-624 Rev C - FINAL firmware 2.50 on US site!

Same story. I run Windows ME, which is similar to 98SE. What worked for me was disabling the ethernet card in device manager and leaving the wireless enabled. Random trial and error. DLink support was all random error.
Shrekslady
Premium
join:2004-11-06
Bakersfield, CA

Re: DI-624 Rev C - FINAL firmware 2.50 on US site!

Whoo Hoo!! Thank you "dlinksufferer"!!!! I did what you said worked for you, and it worked for me too! I'm surfing the web without a cable for the first time!!! I am so relieved to be finally through with this mess!! I am glad that the Device Manager gave me the option to "disable" the Ethernet adapter without having to actually "uninstall" it. I don't know if I would have been willing to do that, for fear of not knowing what to do if I had needed to "put it back"!

I changed the WAN setting back to 10Mbps and I also added the MAC filters for the wireless card and the one for the laptop.

I had looked at the settings for the log, and all of the boxes were checked. I had received the following messages (samples):

See where I was receiving the "paeDISCONNECTED" message every 15 SECONDS! They seemed to stop right when the DHCP renewed one of the leases on an IP. Go figure.

Nov/06/2004 09:20:10 Authentication success XX-XX-XX-XX-XX-XX
Nov/06/2004 09:20:10 state: paeDISCONNECTED
Nov/06/2004 09:20:10 Wireless PC connected XX-XX-XX-XX-XX-XX
Nov/06/2004 09:19:55 Authentication success XX-XX-XX-XX-XX-XX
Nov/06/2004 09:19:55 state: paeDISCONNECTED
Nov/06/2004 09:19:55 Wireless PC connected XX-XX-XX-XX-XX-XX
Nov/06/2004 09:19:40 Authentication success XX-XX-XX-XX-XX-XX
Nov/06/2004 09:19:40 state: paeDISCONNECTED

These are the "Drop TCP (or UDP) Packet" messages that I got until I "unchecked" the Dropped Packets item on the setting list. Should I try to figure out something to do to STOP THEM from coming, or can I just ignore them (or leave the item "unchecked")?

Nov/06/2004 10:48:12 Drop TCP packet from WAN XX.XXX.XXX.XXX:XXXX XX.XXX.XXX.XXX:XXXX Rule: Default deny
Nov/06/2004 10:22:05 Drop TCP packet from WAN XX.XXX.XXX.XXX:XXXX XX.XXX.XXX.XXX:XXXX Rule: Default deny
Nov/06/2004 10:21:59 Drop TCP packet from WAN XX.XXX.XXX.XXX:XXXX XX.XXX.XXX.XXX:XXXX Rule: Default deny
Nov/06/2004 10:21:56 Drop TCP packet from WAN XX.XXX.XXX.XXX:XXXX XX.XXX.XXX.XXX:XXXX Rule: Default deny
Nov/06/2004 10:11:43 Drop UDP packet from WAN XX.XXX.XXX.XXX:XXXX XX.XXX.XXX.XXX:XXX Rule: Default deny

I have NOT had ANY NEW entries on the log for over 2 hours now!

The lights on the wireless adapter still go off and on in exactly the same way as before, so no changes there.

Oh BTW, does anyone here know anything about the "NTP Server" mentioned on the "TIME" screen under the "TOOLS" tab? I would like to find a way to get out of having to manually reset the date and time every time the router "restarts".

In summary, I am SO HAPPY that my wireless network is UP AND RUNNING!!! :D:);)

Talon88
The One

join:2003-08-13
Toronto

Re: DI-624 Rev C - FINAL firmware 2.50 on US site!

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You can put this for "NTP Server"

time.windows.com

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Shrekslady
Premium
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Bakersfield, CA

Re: DI-624 Rev C - FINAL firmware 2.50 on US site!

Thanks a bunch Talon88 for the tip about the NTP Server!

P.S. I like your little Hello Kitty!

StevenGuccione

@austtx.swbell.ne
I had a similar problem that I posted further down in the list, and I wanted to point it out to you, since it sounds like the same problem. Every time I disconnected my wired port, I would lose my PPPoE connection. So none of my wireless machines would have internet access. It seems to be a security feature of PPPoE (at least on SBC DSL that I use). Under Control Panel --> Local Area network --> [Properties] --> [Authentication] there is a box for "Enable IEEE 802.1x authentication fot this network". I unchecked this box and now I am able to power down my wired machine without kicking all the wireless machines off-line.

This seems to keep the PPPoE link alive only if this machine is on. I could be completely wrong about all this, since I know nothing about IEEE 802.1x authentication. But it works here.

BTW, I think this box was originally unchecked, but was modified (without my knowledge) by a recent Windows XP service pack.

-- Steve
-- 1/21/05

zoom3148
Superman
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Yermo, CA

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Never mind, It seems You solved Your problem.:D
rp_guy

join:2001-06-19
Canada
seems that 2.50 absolutely messed up my router
reverting to 2.42 does nothing for me, as it still locks up (not reboot)..

so i have no clue what to do

Tsume
Premium
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Johnson City, TN
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Hello rp_guy, may I suggest something?

Download the version 2.52b37 from the support section of »www.dlink.com.au DON'T DELETE THIS FIRMWARE FROM YOUR COMPUTER UNTIL ALL STEPS ARE COMPLETED! Make sure you use a hard wired connection [NOT wireless] to perform the following steps. You should use Internet Explorer as your browser for doing this as the router's HTML is not standards compliant and has problems under gecko-based browsers.

Here are the following steps that I have used to have a very sucessful upgrade (in this order):

1) Restore factory default settings [ »192.168.0.1/tools_system.html ]
2) Upgrade the firmware in the router's firmware page [under tools... »192.168.0.1/tools_firmw.html ]
3) Restore factory default settings [ »192.168.0.1/tools_system.html ]
4) Now we will do a crash recovery upgrade. Unplug your router.
5) Hold a pin, paperclip, or pen into the reset hole at the back of the router so you can hear the reset button press in.
6) While holding the reset button in, plug the router in and keep holding the reset button in for 15 seconds.
7) Now release the reset button and go back to your computer. Wait 10 seconds and then see if »192.168.0.1 loads for you. If not, follow the steps starting with A at the end of this post.
8) When »192.168.0.1 loads and you see the crash recovery firmware upload page, select the firmware file you downloaded and upgrade the router.
9) If you are not redirected after 1 minute, close your browser, open it again, and head to »192.168.0.1 You should see your normal router setup page.
10) Restore factory default settings [ »192.168.0.1/tools_system.html ]
11) Do another standard firmware upgrade [ »192.168.0.1/tools_firmw.html ]
12) Restore factory default settings [ »192.168.0.1/tools_system.html ]
13) Configure the router the way you like and see if you are trouble-free.
14) If not, try setting UPNP to off [ »192.168.0.1/tools_misc.html ] and if that still doesn't work, and I know this sucks but try it anyway, disable Super-G [ »192.168.0.1/h_wireless.html ]
15) Hopefully your router is happy now!!!

Steps for people who can't get to the crash recovery page:

A) Goto your windows control panel, click network connections, and double click on the connection you use to connect to your router.
B) Click properties on the window that comes up.
C) Under "This connection uses the following items:", click on TCP/IP Protocol and press properties.
D) Check the radio button that says "Use the following IP address:"
E) Fill it in like this:
IP Address: 192.168.0.69
Subnet mask: 255.255.255.0
Default gateway: 192.168.0.1
[ you can leave the DNS settings blank as they aren't important for this part ].
F) Press OK on this window, but leave the other one open because we will need it.
G) Follow steps 7 and 8 up there and then come back down here to step H.
I) Now we will undo the settings that we just did. Highlight TCP/IP Protocol in the window that you should have left open, and press properties again.
J) Now check "Obtain an IP address automatically" and "Obtain DNS server address automatically"
K) Press OK and close all of the other windows that you opened.
L) Goto the start menu and press run. Type "cmd" without the quotes and press enter.
M) Ad the command prompt, type "ipconfig /renew" without the quotes, wait until it is done, and exit command prompt.
N) Now go back up to step 9 above and finish the rest of the firmware upgrade steps.

These instructions were created under WinXP SP2 Pro with DI-624_revC2 firmware 2.52b37
ClemP5

join:2002-09-14
Santa Clarita, CA

Re: DI-624 Rev C - FINAL firmware 2.50 on US site!

Tsume... Thanks for the procedure. I can't wait to try it. I've got a C3 DI-624 that's been rebooting. I've tried everything just like you all have. I even tried 2.52. However, when I upgraded to it (using Talon88's crash/recovery), I couldn't connect to the internet at all. I tried reinstalling 2.52 two more times... same result. I'm a bit confused about one step in your process. Step 2 where you say to 'Upgrade the firmware...' You don't specify if we should upgrade to 2.52 at this point, yet, in step 8 you tell us to upgrade to 2.52. What firmware should we be upgrading to in step 2? You also say the same thing in step 11. What firmware are we upgrading to here?

I know this may sound silly. I really do know what I'm doing. But, trying to get the DI-624 stable these days appears to be more magic than science. So, I want to be sure I've got the steps right. If you've found the formula for making this thing work right, I want to make sure I follow it to the letter!!!

Thanks for your diligence and your help! I'm really looking forward to trying your method. Hope you see this soon so that I can get started.

Clem

Tsume
Premium
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Johnson City, TN

Re: DI-624 Rev C - FINAL firmware 2.50 on US site!

Whenever I say upgrade the firmware, I'm talking about the version you are going to, in this case it would be 2.52b37.
ClemP5

join:2002-09-14
Santa Clarita, CA

Re: DI-624 Rev C - FINAL firmware 2.50 on US site!

Tsume,
I finally tried your update method with 2.52. Unfortunately, just like before, 2.52 refuses to connect to my ISP (SBC Global). I tried reflashing it several times... same result. Then, when I tried to do a crash/recovery so that I could reload 2.50, I couldn't connect to the DI-624. I always have my system setup with a static IP address of 192.168.0.10, but this refused to connect. On a whim, I changed the address to the one in your method, 192.168.0.69... it worked! I have to say this much, knock on wood, after reflashing to 2.50 using your method, I've been reboot-free for about 34 hours (this is a first in months)!!!

Hope this holds for a long while... I'll let you know.

Thanks for your help!

Clem
Chimmy3

join:2004-09-24
Rosedale, NY

Re: DI-624 Rev C - FINAL firmware 2.50 on US site!

ClemP-
Sorry got a little addicted to civ3 complete for a while...
Well that certainly is an odd problem you have with the locked rates.
I have two suggestions:
A) the wireless network is usually only undetectable when set to turbo and the card is not. Make sure that Super-G only is checked off on the driver (actually I don't remember the exact wording, its been a while since I've used the actual atheros driver). if that doesn't work, and you are sure the router is in static turbo mode (and your channel is set correctly [it does weird things like that]) AND that the nic is booting in Super-G enabled mode (its in the config options for a profile if I remember correctly)... THEN

B) Use other drivers... I posted a list of Atheros based drivers I found a while back... along with the driver creation dates. Netgear, IBM, Toshiba, HP, and quite a few others have updated 3.1.x.x drivers... which are supposedly non-beta. Some are newer than the 3.3.0.150 drivers, and none of them force you to use single sign on (so you get to keep your pretty sign on screens).

Talon88
The One

join:2003-08-13
Toronto

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Tsume,

you flash step is very close to mine step,
except :

1) Restore factory default settings [ 192.168.0.1/tools_system.html ]
2) Upgrade the firmware in the router's firmware page [under tools... 192.168.0.1/tools_firmw.html ]
3) Restore factory default settings [ 192.168.0.1/tools_system.html ]
..
..
..
11) Do another standard firmware upgrade [ 192.168.0.1/tools_firmw.html ]
12) Restore factory default settings [ 192.168.0.1/tools_system.html ]

Can you tell me why this extra steps are needed
in your theory..?

thanks.....!

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Tsume
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Johnson City, TN
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Re: DI-624 Rev C - FINAL firmware 2.50 on US site!

I just figure it will make sure the firmware is loaded in there. It may not be necessary, but it doesn't hurt anything to make sure that the firmware is loaded in there completely.

The normal firmware upgrade *may* write blocks to the firmware that crash recover doesn't. In all honesty, I don't know, but I used that way to upgrade to 2.52b37 and the router has been working great since.

Talon88
The One

join:2003-08-13
Toronto

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Re: DI-624 Rev C - FINAL firmware 2.50 on US site!

said by Tsume:

The normal firmware upgrade *may* write blocks to the firmware that crash recover doesn't. In all honesty, I don't know, but I used that way to upgrade to 2.52b37 and the router has been working great since.
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Yes, I agree with you at this point. It's pain in A$$
that to figure out how to make our DI-624 work better.
I think we are much better than the so called D-Link
Tech Support.......Why can't they work in the first
place....

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»DI-624 Firmware update w/ Crash Recovery Step by S --
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ANoni

@cox.net
Hey Max2 you said:

"most users brought because they thought they could use all/most of the adv features, your happy with less, great if it meets your needs."

It's not that I am happy with less, but I do a reality check and I expect real world performance if you compare performance versus price. Common man, these are SOHO routers. I am surprised people use basic routers to run their so called business. Besides, I am starting to think that reboot problems might be power related. Either the power supplies on these routers are not that good, or the power where people plug there routers is not that stable. If my router rebooted I would just go to Fry's and just try an aftermarket power supply to see if that's the fix or maybe you guys need some type of power conditioner or something.
Has anyone done some tests on the power supplies that ship with there routers?? I dont have a Multimeter so I cant do tests.
My philosophy is that I have a stable router with 2.42 FW or 2.50, then its hardware and not FW that is causing the problem. I might have to go to my local Fry's and test the power comming out of that power supply and we should all compare the results.

Go and buy multimiters, SAVE THE RECEIPT, USE IT, AND THEN REFUND IT.!!! Lets compare the results!!

Talon88
The One

join:2003-08-13
Toronto

Re: DI-624 Rev C - FINAL firmware 2.50 on US site!

Yes, maybe the output of Power Supply will
effect the performance of electronic especially
under output.

said by ANoni:

Go and buy multimiters, SAVE THE RECEIPT, USE IT, AND THEN REFUND IT.!!! Lets compare the results!!
No, I don't agree on this, Just buy a Cheap multimeters
& keep, it's usefull when you need it....!

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lucky644
Premium
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If the RMA they send back to me has the same issue, do you think if I got angry with them and demanded money back or a whole new model they'd cave into my request?

Tsume
Premium
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Johnson City, TN
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Re: DI-624 Rev C - FINAL firmware 2.50 on US site!

It's worth a try man... I just RMA'd my router this morning because it was rebooting constantly when I had Turbo on- and I won't stand for that. If my replacement has the same issues, then I'll make a huge fuss about it and demand that the people at D-Link either fix it, recall it, or maybe even threaten with a lawsuit if that gets them motivated to work on fixing it.

The rep I talked to told me that the router rebooting was an 'uncommon' problem. Well from the looks of these forums, I doubt it. Why isn't there very many people here saying "woot go dlink!" like in the buffalo tech forums?

Anyway, I am sending the router back along with a defective DWL-G650 card that died on its own. The DWL is being returned the normal way for a replacement, and the DI624 is being cross-shipped.

mjf
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Re: DI-624 Rev C - FINAL firmware 2.50 on US site!

OK, I'll say I never had a reboot problem and still don't.

The people with problems are posting and the ones that don't don't.

Let's not be too judgemental.
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Smile!
Team Discovery
FordTractor

join:2003-03-25
Fishers, IN
Reviews:
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Several posts over the last year have mentioned how DLink refuses to consider a refund. I RMA'd a unit and called back to complain and was told they would not consider a refund.

I believe one person did exchange a DI-624 for an AP (I think they got a DWL-2100AP) so that may be worth a try. They used to post here several months ago so someone may remember who it was - I searched and couldn't find their posts. Of course what hair I have left is grey so I may be forgetting things. Good luck.

Talon88
The One

join:2003-08-13
Toronto

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Yes, a lawsuit & make D-Link recall all DI-624,
Replaced by a Usable, Perfect working, open
Firmware model..... "DI-666 (Devil Edition)".



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»DI-624 Firmware update w/ Crash Recovery Step by S --
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Tsume
Premium
join:2004-02-23
Johnson City, TN
Hey, I'd use something called the DI-666 if the firmware was opensource!

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Tsume
Premium
join:2004-02-23
Johnson City, TN
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You'd be surprised to see the lawsuits that make it in court these days. Hell, the whole system for everything is screwed up. Some kid patented swinging sideways.

By the way, I don't expect to see 108mbps. I expect to have turbo "on" and for it to give me the speed boost it should [in my case, turbo makes it go from 20mbps to 25mbps]. The router advertises stability. I want it not to reboot. It's called "FALSE ADVERTISEMENT" if it says it is stable yet reboots when it's only selling point is enabled.

Yes, I want turbo. Yes, I will make a class-action lawsuit if there is interest. If my RMA'd router I recieve is defective, and I don't plan a class-action suit, be assured that the BBB will at least be notified and I will demand a refund or exchange for a properly working product.

It's all nice that your router is fine, now go somewhere else and play with it. We don't need attitude.

Tsume
Premium
join:2004-02-23
Johnson City, TN
Reviews:
·Comcast
I suggest you visit sites such as this one:

»www.stellaawards.com/2003.html

More often. You will learn that in America, you can sue for anything and probably win. Also, this wouldn't be a frivilous suit [like the mcdonalds hot coffee one], since every person knows coffee is hot [WARNING LABLES WERE ON THE MACHINE], but not every person knows that D-Link sells faulty products.
ClemP5

join:2002-09-14
Santa Clarita, CA
Tsume: Thanks! I can't wait to try this out and see what happens.

Everyone: I recently updated my Norton 2003 AntiVirus Professional. I had to reinstall it to do this. I mention that here, because, prior reinstalling it, my internet connection, via the DWL-G650, was almost as fast as my wired access. Since the update, my internet connection has really slowed down. This is without making any changes to the firmware or settings of the DI-624 or the DWL-G650.

Has anyone else experienced this type of behavior? I know it's probably coincidental, but, I've got to ask.

Thanks,
Clem

jonazen
Be Like Water My Friend
Premium
join:2004-02-18
Princeton Junction, NJ

Re: DI-624 Rev C - FINAL firmware 2.50 on US site!

Clem -

It may not be a coincidence at all. I've personally found that Norton AV is incredibly resource-hungry, and far slower than I would like. A couple of years ago, after doing fairly extensive research on the subject, we settled on using ESET's NOD32 anti-virus. It's incredibly good -- won in competition against Norton and McAfee several years in a row in 3rd party "shoot out". It's also reasonably priced, very quick and very light-weight.

Anyway - aside from the general sloth and resource-hogging of Norton AV, I know that some AV's (such as NOD32) actually hook Winsock and intercept viruses at that level. This is generally fine -- but on occasion, this techique has caused problems. For example aboue 18 months ago, the then-current version of NOD32 created a problem for our server backup client software -- the "IMON" (internet monitor) portion of NOD32 that hooked into Winsock prevented the backup client from connecting to the backup server. It's been fixed since then, but I know that a few other packages out there as well also hook into Winsock this way.

You might want to check and see if Norton AV does anything like this...
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Jon
The Strong Group, Inc.

lucky644
Premium
join:2002-02-04
I got my new router yesterday. DI-624, C3, and the firmware on the bottom said 2.42 but it was already flashed to 2.50

Only issue I had (which was odd...) was that after restoring my settings, my FTP no longer worked. Now, anyone who uses this router with a FTP knows that you NEED to use passive ports. Anyhow, I wiped the passive ports I had entered, and put them in again identically, and it worked. Very strange.

Hasn't rebooted yet.

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juancho100

join:2004-11-11
0000
I bougth my DI-624 on september and now I noticed than every 30 minutes aprox, the router reboot.
Firmaware C3 (2.42)
When I go to the link says that I cant use the version 2.5.
Can tell how to fix the router.

Juancho100
dscline

join:2001-09-01
Atlanta, GA
It's on the "Wireless" button in the "Home" tab. But you have to turn off Turbo if you have it on... turbo only works on channel 6.
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