gwion
wild colonial boy
Premium,ExMod 2001-08
join:2000-12-28
Pittsburgh, PA | Official "FIBER" thread... volume 2
Continued from »FTTP --- Fiber at large - official thread... |
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flyguy42
join:2003-11-29
Gilbert, AZ | Any Verizon folk out there know of plans for Pomona/Phillips Ranch ,CA? |
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Dennis7he
join:2004-10-12 | reply to gwion
Anyone know if Verizon has any plans for Los Angeles, I'd appreciate any info, thanks. |
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The Way Out
join:2003-01-20 | reply to gwion
Search for the forum, guys...
»Verizon expands FIOS to 9 states total |
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Walhalla
join:2004-08-10
West Union, SC
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Do any of you fellows in the trenches know if any FTTX equipment like OLTs or ONTs from either Quantum Bridge (now owned by Motorola) or Alcatel is being incorporated into Verizon's FTTH buildout? I heard there have been some glitches with the AFCI OLTs, ect and have heard rumblings about some different equipment from another vendor now being installed.
Any info. is very much appreciated. |
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sully4321
@verizon.ne
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Re: eco message using RJ11 and RG59/6
Verizon won't be using your RG59/6 (coax) or RJ11 in your house to deliver fttp services. They will be carried via CAT5e or 6 to deliver throughout the house. Cat5e is superior for delivering better voice,data and video, which is the purpose of fttp. Verizon is in the beginning stages of talking to builders in certain areas about wiring with CAT5e. This certainly wouldn't be happening if RG59/6 and RJ11 were applicable. The services would then be available throughout the home as opposed to being "split" at the ont. |
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JohnE
join:2002-04-28
1 edit | The ONT s that Verizon will be using have outputs for RJ45/Cat5e Internet...RJ11/Phone and coax/TV.There are pics on the net...Find them .
»www.cedmagazine.com/ced/2003/1103/id1.htm
"The Home Optical Network Terminal (H-ONT) includes a BON fiber interface plus twisted-pair interfaces for voice, a 75-ohm coaxial interface for video, and a 10/100Base-T interface for data. The Video OLT (V-OLT) provides amplification of the video signal, creating a video overlay. The Access Management System (AMS) provides network element management." |
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tonice11232
join:2002-11-19
Brooklyn, NY | reply to gwion
Re: Official "FIBER" thread... volume 2
Is FIBER being offed to the area of Brooklyn, NYC???
If so please post here, please...
Thanks... |
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eco
Premium
join:2001-11-28
Wilmington, DE
2 edits | reply to sully4321
Re: eco message using RJ11 and RG59/6
said by sully4321:
Verizon won't be using your RG59/6 (coax) or RJ11 in your house to deliver fttp services. They will be carried via CAT5e or 6 to deliver throughout the house. Cat5e is superior for delivering better voice,data and video, which is the purpose of fttp. Verizon is in the beginning stages of talking to builders in certain areas about wiring with CAT5e. This certainly wouldn't be happening if RG59/6 and RJ11 were applicable. The services would then be available throughout the home as opposed to being "split" at the ont.
Read the post above by JohnE and then please stop posting about this. You clearly do not know what you're talking about.
There is absolutely no reason to install CAT5e/6 for telephone service when it is far more expensive and offers zero advantages. The same can be said for RG59/6. I would much rather have my home wired with that, so if I decide I want cable television, I don't have to have my whole home rewired.
EDIT: Here is the ONT Verizon is using. »home.att.net/~toddharlan/ONT.jpg
IF you look at it, you can clearly see there are 4 RJ-11 jacks for telephone, an ethernet bridge for data, and below the four phone jacks, there is a connection for video via RG59/6. |
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sully4321
@verizon.ne
| Everything you are saying contradicts the information of the players involved. Not interested in arguing this point any further...you obviously think you are correct. The ONT's are still in constant development, showing me a pic of 1 ONT should not convince anyone. Good luck to you. |
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sully4321
@verizon.ne | reply to eco
also, in the ONT pic,you can clearly see the blue/blue white pair of CAT5E is connected to the PHONE....orange/orange white is connected to VIDEO...and I see no coax coming out to the house. End of story. |
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figure 8
join:2004-09-10
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Re: Official "FIBER" thread... volume 2
said by tonice11232  :Is FIBER being offed to the area of Brooklyn, NYC??? If so please post here, please... Thanks...BQUOTE] No.Currently the only boro seeing FTTP activity is Staten Island. |
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pmn929
join:2002-07-21
Flower Mound, TX
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Re: eco message using RJ11 and RG59/6
Actually, there is no connection to the video output on that ONT. It’s an RG59/6 bulkhead like everyone has stated before. Video is not being offered yet, so there is no need to even bother wasting the time on the install to hook it up.
The blue/blue white pair is more than likely being used to carry a dial tone to the same room in the house where the cat5e is going. There probably wasn’t a phone jack there to begin with. |
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sully4321
@verizon.ne | orange white will be used for video...tired of explaining how it will be done, seems as though there are too many geniuses who already have it figured out. "blue white to room with no existing jack".....whatever |
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Agent 86
| sully, please stop your silly bluffing. You don't know anything, that is obvious. |
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sully4321
@verizon.ne | please inform me on the "bluffing" |
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JohnE
join:2002-04-28
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I will be doing my own wiring to the installed ONT. I will be using cat5e from the data port. Quad shielded COAX to the coax connection and if I have some basic cat5 around that I want to waste, it will make a high quality voice/phone line. Shown in that pic is a voice line piggybacked on a data line. I will not cram everything into one cat5e. That’s cheap, low quality work.
"Note: It is important not to use variety of media in the same Cable since the Electrical fields might interfere one with the other. “
»www.ezlan.net/cat4tel.html |
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eco
Premium
join:2001-11-28
Wilmington, DE
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said by pmn929 :Actually, there is no connection to the video output on that ONT. It’s an RG59/6 bulkhead like everyone has stated before. Video is not being offered yet, so there is no need to even bother wasting the time on the install to hook it up. The blue/blue white pair is more than likely being used to carry a dial tone to the same room in the house where the cat5e is going. There probably wasn’t a phone jack there to begin with. The point was that video header will be used to provide video in the future. When video service is offered, you will simply plug the RG-59/6 line coming into your house into that.
As to sully, ONTs may be in constant development, but right now the ONTs being installed use the methods for voice, data and video I have described. Verizon is not going to go out when video services are rolled out and change the ONT of everyone who got fiber before video was offered. Futher, I've seen no evidence that supports a plan by Verizon to use a different ONT in the future. As of now, video will be RG-59/6, voice will be RJ-11 and data will be RJ-45. Until you can offer a shred of evidence to prove otherwise, you are wrong. Either admit it or stop posting. |
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sghty
@optonline.net
| I've seen some suggestion that the problems with AFC has VZ looking for a second source and at the same time considering a shift to GPON. But as for the video over Ethernet, nothing to this point suggests it'll be done that way. If silly has some evidence otherwise, he should post it. |
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sully4321
@verizon.ne | Builders, electricians and techs in certain areas are now being informed and asked to install the cat5e homeruns. what further proof is needed? |
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