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Mele20
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reply to ghost16825
Re: Poll on Security Updates Thread

I agree. This sticky fosters paranoia and that should not be. Look at all the users who recently are freaked out because NAV and McAfee only update once a week. We are seeing people here saying they are leaving these two AVs because they don't update every hour! GEEZ... get a grip people! NAV and McAfee will issue a special update if there is a major oubreak.

ghost16825 See Profile is right. If you can't live without updates for your applications for a day, a week, or even a month you have serious problems with your security setup and you obviously do not practice safe hex. I think we should be encouraging the practice of safe hex and a variety of security measures and not emphasizing the daily update of applications. That is not needed if good security measures (including how the user interacts with their computer...ie ..safe hex at all times) are in place. I don't have an AV at the moment but I am not in a panic. I can go a month at least without an AV because I have good security measures in place and I practice safe hex.

We should not be encouraging users to panic and to think that they must have daily, or even hourly, updates or they are doomed to having someone immediately take over their computers. I think the sticky should be done away with and we should go back to how it was before. Before this sticky, there was never any statements about "I'm leaving McAfee because it doesn't update every hour". The sticky has encouraged this aberrant thinking.
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mboy
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said by Mele20 See Profile:

I agree. This sticky fosters paranoia and that should not be. Look at all the users who recently are freaked out because NAV and McAfee only update once a week. We are seeing people here saying they are leaving these two AVs because they don't update every hour! GEEZ... get a grip people! NAV and McAfee will issue a special update if there is a major oubreak.

ghost16825 See Profile is right. If you can't live without updates for your applications for a day, a week, or even a month you have serious problems with your security setup and you obviously do not practice safe hex. I think we should be encouraging the practice of safe hex and a variety of security measures and not emphasizing the daily update of applications. That is not needed if good security measures (including how the user interacts with their computer...ie ..safe hex at all times) are in place. I don't have an AV at the moment but I am not in a panic. I can go a month at least without an AV because I have good security measures in place and I practice safe hex.

We should not be encouraging users to panic and to think that they must have daily, or even hourly, updates or they are doomed to having someone immediately take over their computers. I think the sticky should be done away with and we should go back to how it was before. Before this sticky, there was never any statements about "I'm leaving McAfee because it doesn't update every hour". The sticky has encouraged this aberrant thinking.
Well, it also shows people that certain apps do not update as frequently. You may not view this as a negative, but I do. Yeah, Nortona and Macafee might release as needed, but they have recently been late to the party when releasing emergency updates.

I find the thread useful to make sure my apps with auto updates are working properly and find it EXTREMELY useful for apps that only support manual updates (like Spybot, Ad-Aware, etc).

ghost16825
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Not only that, Mele20, but this Updates thread could also be saying to newbies that if they do not have at least 5 security applications they are unsafe. Is this also the advice that this forum wants to encourage?
Rather that encouraging people to get the facts about what malware can and can't do, we seem to be encouraging them to use an array of applications first, then have them find out whether they actually need them or not later.

Case in point:

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