JMYork1983
join:2004-10-31
Old Town, ME
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How many protection tools are enough? I have Kaspersky and TrojanHunter installed but I noticed some people have included stuff like PrevX and Ewido on their systems. Are those good to use along with the other stuff I have? Also, what tool prevents going to malicious web pages? I just got a virus in my Firefox cache. Thanks. |
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ghost16825
Use security metrics
Premium
join:2003-08-26 | Oh no!
After careful deliberation I have chosen not to give a proper response to this post. |
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TerryMiller
Premium
join:2003-10-23
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IE spyad and HPGuru's hosts file can both help minimize damage to your computer from visiting malicious sites.
The surest way to prevent damage is behavioral changes brought about by education.
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boblandy
Premium
join:2002-05-06
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said by JMYork1983  :How many protection tools are enough? I have Kaspersky and TrojanHunter installed but I noticed some people have included stuff like PrevX and Ewido on their systems. Are those good to use along with the other stuff I have? good question. and those are solid tools you have installed right now.
you'll find, i believe, about as many forum members advising you against adopting a multi-layered security defense as you will find advising you in favor.
it's become a bit of a laugh around here (though i do see a few members who on occasion lapse into anger) when it comes to your very question.... how much is enough?
i prefer to err on the side of over-protection. someone once asked me if i wore two pair of shoes when i went outside. that was amusing. and i certainly got their point.
i only caution you to be aware of the inherent dangers of running more than one program as resident. choose instead to keep one as on-demand scanner and the other as memory resident, always-on protection. it's common knowledge that doing this will preclude any conflicts.
to make a long story short, you'll ultimately have to decide for yourself what level of protection makes sense and affords you the protection you deem necessary.
i run two ATs, two AVs, and a lot of other neato stuff. do i think someone is out to get me? hah! a better question is, will they be able to?
best of luck
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boblandy
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join:2002-05-06 | reply to JMYork1983
and if no one has said it yet... welcome to the forums! 
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keith2468
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-03
Winnipeg, MB
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It should be enough to have one malware scanner.
But it isn't. No product is currently good enough.
I run KAV Personal, ZoneAlarm (Free), SpywareBlaster (Free), SpywareGuard (Free), Ad-aware (Free), an NAT router, oh yeah, and Spybot S&D (Free).
One could probably replace these products "SpywareBlaster (Free), SpywareGuard (Free), Ad-aware (Free) and Spybot S&D (Free)." with Giant Antispyware.
»www.giantcompany.com/(hsivihauk1···are.aspx
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JMYork1983
join:2004-10-31
Old Town, ME | reply to JMYork1983
Do you get any conflicts by having both AdAware and Spybot? Thanks for the ideas, any more are appreciated. Thanks! |
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jaykaykay
4 Ever Young
Premium,MVM
join:2000-04-13
Scottsdale, AZ | Absolutely no conflicts with those 2. |
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JMYork1983
join:2004-10-31
Old Town, ME | reply to JMYork1983
Would it hurt to throw in Winpatrol and some other AT program? |
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JMYork1983
join:2004-10-31
Old Town, ME | reply to boblandy
Thanks for the welcome, sorry I didn't see your PM, still getting used to the layout. |
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anectine17
Premium,MVM
join:2003-01-05
Mountain Home, ID
| reply to keith2468
I have done essentially that. I replaced Ad-Aware SE Pro and Spybot S&D with Giant AntiSpyware. Giant, combined with Kaspersky Antivirus Personal 5.0, and Kaspersky Anti-Hacker firewall, and I feel snug as a bug in a rug. Additionally, I am behind Direcway's NAT, so I don't lose much sleep at night. Upon installation and implementation of Giant, it found several nasties (Bargain Buddy, and several 'toolbars') that Ad-Aware's Ad-Watch let in, and Ad-Aware and Spybot both missed on scanning. Go Giant!!!
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antiserious
The Future ain't what it used to be
Premium
join:2001-12-12
Scranton, PA
| reply to JMYork1983
... personally, I'd recommend SpywareBlaster and a good Host file to any and everyone ... they add a layer and use no resources ... and of course, tighten up IE settings ... the rest is up to the individual ...
... and I'll resist saying the 'F' word to try and avoid another round of THAT dance ...
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JMYork1983
join:2004-10-31
Old Town, ME | reply to JMYork1983
Do host files work with Firefox? And where do I find a really good host file? Thanks for the reply. |
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TerryMiller
Premium
join:2003-10-23
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My understanding is that all programs check for known resolutions before requesting to resolve a name. Therefore even software that doesn't use the Microsoft DNS client still benefits from the hosts file. Some examples would be IE and Outlook which both have built in DNS clients but hpguru 's hosts file helps to protect them.
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JMYork1983
join:2004-10-31
Old Town, ME | reply to JMYork1983
Is hpguru's host file a good one? Where can I get it? |
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mers2
Premium,MVM
join:2004-03-20
USA
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| said by JMYork1983 :Is hpguru's host file a good one? Where can I get it? »webpages.charter.net/hpguru/hosts/hosts.html |
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TerryMiller
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join:2003-10-23
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said by JMYork1983 :Is hpguru's host file a good one? Where can I get it? This is a good point for someone with their doctorate to say "Dr. recommended", I can't so I'll just say that he takes it very seriously so it's a good one.
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SummersKnight
| reply to JMYork1983
Anyone who compares wearing more than one pair of shoes to computer security is a bit foolish IMO.
A better analogy would be to compare protecting your computer to a knight's armor. So would you go into battle without your breastplate? Or your helm? I sure wouldn't.
A wise individual would do all they could to protect every part themselves (or their computer in this case) before entering battle, knowing full well the enmy would being doing all they could to attack you and looking for your every weak point.
So anyone who layers their security programs is better prepared for a 'skilled' attacker who would be looking for the weak points in your protection and anyone without this protection would be less able to defend themselves as competently.
Using KAV, TH, Prevx, Ewido, IESpyad, Spybot, Ad-aware and some other programs is definitely not over doing it IMHO.
Dumping Spybot, Ad-aware, SpywareBlaster, and SpywareGuard for Giant anti-spyware may seem like a good idea to some, but what if you get some form of malware that disables Giant? It is possible, I've seen it happen. Then what are you going to do?
It would be better to have a few backup scanners (the more the better IMO) like Ad-aware and Spybot (aleast), even if you don't use them, just to cover yourself.
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richrf
join:2000-04-08
Chicago, IL
| reply to JMYork1983
Hi,
FWIW:
1) I agree that behavorial changes are the best defense. I haven't found a product or set of products which can defend against all types of malware that can exist on the web. Knocking on the doors of strangers can have unpredictable results.
2) Anti-virus: I am primarily using KAV 4.5.104 now with extended databases. It is very good, but does not stop everything. I like having a backup on-demand scanner. Sometimes I use McAfee's online scan but I am testing out NOD32 since NOD32 has a different heuristic model that may complement KAV. I haven't decided whether NOD32 is worth it or not at this time.
3) Anti-trojan: I have BOClear and Ewido running interchangeably in real-time. Again, I like to have backups since I do not trust any single program. Ewido appears to catch some minor stuff that BOClean doesn't detect but BOClean is lighter on resources. If I suspect a nasty has bypassed the ATs and successfully entered into my system (something that rarely happens) I will run TDS-3, which is a very comprehensive AT and has detected some real baddies in the past. It is very trustworthy.
4) Anti-spyware: I am using Giant AS in real-time. It does a good job of monitoring the registries and a full scan will sometimes detect some malware of cookie. Sometimes there are false positives so I am not quick on the trigger. If it detects registry entries that I cannot positively confirm either with Ad-Aware, Spybot, or my own meticulous detective work, I leave it alone. I've learned that trusting AS programs and deleting registry enties without cause can create lots of programs. I also use SpywareBlaster.
5) I am testing Process Guard 3.0. So far it is stable but I only have the free version. It is a very powerful piece of software that provides broad defenses against malicious software, but it is a brand new product. Initial reports on Wilders Security Forum have been positive. I am just observing at this point. But it does appear to provide a reasonable answer to malware like keyloggers, rootkits, trojans, etc. Definitely worth a look but depending upon your surfing habits, it may be overkill.
Rich |
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