Patruk
join:2001-10-25
Stockton, CA
| reply to jaykaykay
Re: Beware, you may have "Bagel" in your Inbox
said by jaykaykay  :
Hey, guys. What's with you people. This person was posting something they thought was important. They didn't come here to be made fun of, to be talked down to or to be replied to sarcastically, or to be just put down. Not everyone that comes to this forum knows as much as you whom have posted and just maybe his post will help someone else not as wise as you all. Lighten up and remember, this is not a forum for "no it alls" or there wouldn't be a need for it!
I agree. I don't post here much, but I read a lot of the threads, and there are a few people who have a tendency to put people down instead of offering help. |
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ghost16825
Use security metrics
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join:2003-08-26
| reply to Mats
said by Mats :
said by Greg_Z : This is a heads up i hope this doesnt become a trend around here.. if it did, the forum would be full of posts where a person received an email with a virus attached.. happens many times a day, no need for a heads up.
Imagine if we were only cautious and on the lookout for malware once a "heads up" for an outbreak appeared in the security forum. If users took no precautions whatsoever and only changed their behaviour once they saw a "heads up" for a new virus variant, they would have an infested and dead machine pretty quickly.
This is especially since most "heads up" posts in this forum occur way, way after the outbreak has occured. However, if we followed the posts in the Malware forum as they occured we would be changing our behaviour just before or perhaps mostly just have the virus outbreak occured. |
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Greg_Z
Premium
join:2001-08-08
Springfield, IL
 ·Comcast
| reply to joewho
said by joewho :Did see the extension on that attachment? Just curious. I got a phony ms update, and it is entirely possible that someone would open a txt. doc. without thinking. (no I didn't). You are right, due to most people would just click on the file and ignore the fact that the file is actually set up in a way that if you do not have Windows updated with the latest critical updates, or not using some sort of AV software, this stuff can slip through.
BTW, Microsoft sends out emails with MD5 verification
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joewho
Premium
join:2004-08-20
Las Vegas, NV | reply to Greg_Z
Did see the extention on that attachment? Just curious. I got a phony ms update, and it is entirely possible that someone would open a txt. doc. without thinking. (no I didn't).
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Greg_Z
Premium
join:2001-08-08
Springfield, IL
·Comcast
| reply to kpatz
I totally agree with you kpatz. Instead of posting, we should be able to track by statics. We all know where to go for the information (those of us that have been here), but when you try to search for something, what you end up getting is headaches, due to it takes forever to see it.
We find some information great, and other that makes you think why it was posted. I do believe my posting is kind of short, but when you get a new user searching for information, and topics such as this brings to light as to how an infection can happen by just clicking on the attachment without thinking.
There are some web mail portals that do not scan the attachments, and having Yahoo being able to scan it for a virus will defiantly help in possibly stopping an infection that can cause headaches, and loss of work due to the time it takes to clean up said infection.
As I have said before, and will state this again "The user is only as smart as they make thyself to be."
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firebrix
@net.nz | reply to Greg_Z
O but we DO read this forum so that we don't have to bother you experts all the time. We read and learn, even if we don't say much.
I've learned so much here!!!!
Thanks to you all
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PeeWee
Premium
join:2001-10-21
Clovis, CA
clubs:
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·Comcast
| reply to Greg_Z
A heads up on something like this serves as an advisory and/or reminder for those that do need it. and a reminder of the importance of reiterating said advice to customers and clients.
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kpatz
MY HEAD A SPLODE
Premium
join:2003-06-13
Manchester, NH
| reply to DownLow
Actually, this thread gave me a neat idea, maybe we could propose something to WCB, Justin and whoever else.
Instead of a thread where we post "I got Bagle in my email", maybe have an area on the board where people can report viruses they receive, and the board would keep statistics. It could be the BBR Security Forum Virus Statistics board. At a glance one can see what malware is most prevalent over the course of a day, week, month, or whatever.
The trick I guess would be keeping the naming consistent, especially with every AV program reporting the same malware under different names. The board would have to know that "Bagle.Z" as reported by F-Prot is the same as "Beagle.X" as reported by NAV, etc.
Probably more work than it's worth, but it would be a cool thing to have. 
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DownLow
Nope...I Got Nothing
Premium
join:2001-04-25
Long Island
1 edit | reply to Greg_Z
**Edit** never mind...not a constructive posting! |
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ironwalker
World Renowned
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join:2001-08-31
Keansburg, NJ
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| reply to Mats
said by Mats :give me a break.. i hear what you guys are saying but it doesnt apply in this case.. imagine what this forum would look like if everyone posted an email that they received that had a virus attached to it. it would be a mess. if its something that you guys want, then hopefully a special sticky thread can be made for it. then everyone that gets a virus through email can post directly to that thread.. True indeed....but your reply was insensitive.
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Mats
Here kitty and the chimp. Smash
Premium
join:2002-03-16
| reply to Greg_Z
give me a break.. i hear what you guys are saying but it doesnt apply in this case.. imagine what this forum would look like if everyone posted an email that they received that had a virus attached to it. it would be a mess.
if its something that you guys want, then hopefully a special sticky thread can be made for it. then everyone that gets a virus through email can post directly to that thread.. |
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ironwalker
World Renowned
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join:2001-08-31
Keansburg, NJ
clubs:
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| reply to Greg_Z
Its a shame that all the readers who want to post but are afraid just get more shy with posts like these.
I was always told...read,try,ask......it worked for me.
To those that get responses as above...ignore them....take what advice ya can use and leave the rest.
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Bubba
GIT-R-DONE
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join:2002-08-19
Around, Us
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| reply to jaykaykay
Very much agree JKK....this Forum and many of it's threads have always been Viewed by way more than the amount of posts that are made. If and when threads can not be made in the interest of all without being scrutinized by those that always feel that threads should only appeal to the choir....it will be a sad day for this Forum. In fact....if some in the choir would sometimes be the viewers and not the posters....we might have a higher % of posters.
Case in point:
»Is Wildtangent Ad/Spyware? 43/639
»WhenU Enters the Anti-Spyware Market 51/500
»Information security: How liable should vendors be 52/234 |
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kpatz
MY HEAD A SPLODE
Premium
join:2003-06-13
Manchester, NH
| reply to jaykaykay
I think the OP posted the info in case it was another BBR member who is infected, to let them know.
I find the odds of tracking down the sender of these things is slim to none. 95% of the viruses I get in my inboxes come from ISPs and locations that I don't know anyone on.
BTW, my wife had a Bagle in her inbox this morning. Nothing new or exciting. I see them (and Netskys) all the time.
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ironwalker
World Renowned
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join:2001-08-31
Keansburg, NJ
clubs:
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1 edit | reply to jaykaykay
said by jaykaykay :Hey, guys. What's with you people. This person was posting something they thought was important. They didn't come here to be made fun of, to be talked down to or to be replied to sarcastically, or to be just put down. Not everyone that comes to this forum knows as much as you whom have posted and just maybe his post will help someone else not as wise as you all. Lighten up and remember, this is not a forum for "no it alls" or there wouldn't be a need for it! I think they are now eligible for the "other" security forum;)
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jaykaykay
4 Ever Young
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join:2000-04-13
Scottsdale, AZ
·Speakeasy
| reply to Greg_Z
Hey, guys. What's with you people. This person was posting something they thought was important. They didn't come here to be made fun of, to be talked down to or to be replied to sarcastically, or to be just put down. Not everyone that comes to this forum knows as much as you whom have posted and just maybe his post will help someone else not as wise as you all. Lighten up and remember, this is not a forum for "no it alls" or there wouldn't be a need for it! |
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Epyon9283
Premium
join:2001-12-26
Dayton, NJ
| reply to BlitzenZeus
said by BlitzenZeus :Common sense should prevent people from doing anything with the attachment... You'd think so... |
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BlitzenZeus
Burnt Out Cynic
Premium,MVM
join:2000-01-13
Beaverton, OR
 ·Verizon FIOS
·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to Greg_Z
Download, and listen to these songs on the link below for a look at the average user
The system admin song.
Welcome to the internet help desk.
»www.ampcast.com/music/22488/artist.php |
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Mats
Here kitty and the chimp. Smash
Premium
join:2002-03-16
| reply to Greg_Z
said by Greg_Z : This is a heads up i hope this doesnt become a trend around here.. if it did, the forum would be full of posts where a person received an email with a virus attached.. happens many times a day, no need for a heads up. |
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BlitzenZeus
Burnt Out Cynic
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join:2000-01-13
Beaverton, OR
·Verizon FIOS
·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to Greg_Z
Look at the crowd your giving the heads up to, most of us are more than able to protect ourselves for the most part, and its nothing new. Most of the people who this might benefit likely wouldn't even bother reading this forum, and likely only post here after something has happened to their computer.
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