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Greg_Z
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reply to Mats
Re: Beware, you may have "Bagel" in your Inbox

said by Mats See Profile:

imagine that, getting an attachment sent to you through email that was a virus. who would have thought :o
Okay smartpants. This is a heads up, not "let's point fingers at the idiots"..
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BlitzenZeus
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Look at the crowd your giving the heads up to, most of us are more than able to protect ourselves for the most part, and its nothing new. Most of the people who this might benefit likely wouldn't even bother reading this forum, and likely only post here after something has happened to their computer.
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Mats
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reply to Greg_Z
said by Greg_Z See Profile:

This is a heads up
i hope this doesnt become a trend around here.. if it did, the forum would be full of posts where a person received an email with a virus attached.. happens many times a day, no need for a heads up.


BlitzenZeus
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reply to Greg_Z
Download, and listen to these songs on the link below for a look at the average user
The system admin song.
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DownLow
Nope...I Got Nothing
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reply to Greg_Z
**Edit** never mind...not a constructive posting!

kpatz
MY HEAD A SPLODE
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Manchester, NH

Actually, this thread gave me a neat idea, maybe we could propose something to WCB, Justin and whoever else.

Instead of a thread where we post "I got Bagle in my email", maybe have an area on the board where people can report viruses they receive, and the board would keep statistics. It could be the BBR Security Forum Virus Statistics board. At a glance one can see what malware is most prevalent over the course of a day, week, month, or whatever.

The trick I guess would be keeping the naming consistent, especially with every AV program reporting the same malware under different names. The board would have to know that "Bagle.Z" as reported by F-Prot is the same as "Beagle.X" as reported by NAV, etc.

Probably more work than it's worth, but it would be a cool thing to have.
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Greg_Z
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I totally agree with you kpatz. Instead of posting, we should be able to track by statics. We all know where to go for the information (those of us that have been here), but when you try to search for something, what you end up getting is headaches, due to it takes forever to see it.

We find some information great, and other that makes you think why it was posted. I do believe my posting is kind of short, but when you get a new user searching for information, and topics such as this brings to light as to how an infection can happen by just clicking on the attachment without thinking.

There are some web mail portals that do not scan the attachments, and having Yahoo being able to scan it for a virus will defiantly help in possibly stopping an infection that can cause headaches, and loss of work due to the time it takes to clean up said infection.

As I have said before, and will state this again "The user is only as smart as they make thyself to be."
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joewho
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Did see the extention on that attachment? Just curious. I got a phony ms update, and it is entirely possible that someone would open a txt. doc. without thinking. (no I didn't).
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Greg_Z
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said by joewho See Profile:

Did see the extension on that attachment? Just curious. I got a phony ms update, and it is entirely possible that someone would open a txt. doc. without thinking. (no I didn't).
You are right, due to most people would just click on the file and ignore the fact that the file is actually set up in a way that if you do not have Windows updated with the latest critical updates, or not using some sort of AV software, this stuff can slip through.

BTW, Microsoft sends out emails with MD5 verification
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ghost16825
Use security metrics
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reply to Mats
said by Mats See Profile:
said by Greg_Z See Profile:


This is a heads up
i hope this doesnt become a trend around here.. if it did, the forum would be full of posts where a person received an email with a virus attached.. happens many times a day, no need for a heads up.

Imagine if we were only cautious and on the lookout for malware once a "heads up" for an outbreak appeared in the security forum. If users took no precautions whatsoever and only changed their behaviour once they saw a "heads up" for a new virus variant, they would have an infested and dead machine pretty quickly.

This is especially since most "heads up" posts in this forum occur way, way after the outbreak has occured. However, if we followed the posts in the Malware forum as they occured we would be changing our behaviour just before or perhaps mostly just have the virus outbreak occured.
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