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Pz_
join:2001-03-31
Brownsburg, IN
clubs: | Re: NO SHIT! I think the big story here is that they finally admit it. We knew all of that before. | |
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join:2004-04-29
Regina, SK
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| Re: NO SHIT! quote:
I totally agree with the music simily isn't very good part. Most of the CD's I buy are ones that have been out for years and I've slowly been buying them to replace my vinyl and 8-tracks.
This is the one instance (i think) where since you've already paid for the rights to the music once, you can now download the mp3's legally, no? | |
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sivran
Long Live The Suite
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join:2003-09-15
Arlington, TX
clubs: | Re: NO SHIT! Bingo.
It's just that the guy uploading them has no right to do so. | |
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join:2003-08-20
South Lyon, MI
clubs: | Re: NO SHIT! It took them this long to figure that out? whos running the RIAA a bunch of 4 year olds? | |
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Pirate515
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join:2001-01-22
Brooklyn, NY
|  Re: NO SHIT!
said by Deathsadvoca  :Who is running the RIAA? A bunch of 4 year olds? Multiply that by a few billion and you'll get the age right.
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| Uh, I'm hoping that's sarcasm, but just in case you're really wondering...
Of course they know their music is shit, but there are certain benefits to chalking declining sales up to piracy, namely that it's politically easier to get more and more restrictive laws passed. The current music business is based on the model of selling CDs, which involves infrastructure that record companies are set up to provide. But wouldn't they embrace music download services like iTunes? You'd think so, since they can then cut out the cost of physical CD production, but then why are they trying to sabotage them by attempting to jack up prices to levels that would approach that of a physical CD? Well, would you pay $10 for an album off iTunes as opposed to $15 for a CD? Maybe, even though the downloaded files aren't CD quality. Now, would you pay $14 for that download? Maybe not, since for just a bit more, you can get the CD, with better sound, plus a physical product. Suddenly, iTunes's business model collapses before it can really take off. But it's already taken off, hasn't it? Not quite. You'll know when it takes off when a popular musician shit-cans their record company and starts selling directly via iTunes or a service like it. That's what the record companies don't want to start happening.
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Grimm
You Never Hear The One That Kills You
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Largo, FL
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It took them this long to figure that out? whos running the RIAA a bunch of 4 year olds?
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4 Year olds don't wear diapers and eat strained foods.
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sdghty
@optonline.net
| Exactly, I replaced all but about 50 of my vinyl records before it got to the point where it was no longer worth bothering to look for the rest. And that was years ago, by which time I was already tired of 20 new albums to maybe find one that worth it. Of course when the one radio station left that wasn't a slave to the playlists died, that killed radio for me along with buying new CD's.
And no, I never downloaded any "music". I believe the industry killed itself many years ago and suspect many people were just trying to get the music at it's true value.
If they'd gotten smart and offered downloads for a few cents each, they might have turned things around. But now the've generated too much bad publicity by making themselves look blinded by greed. | |
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LiquidFriend
The Mooninites
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join:2001-12-08
Raymore, MO
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1 edit | said by trparky : quote:
The factors more responsible were physical CD piracy and resale, increased competition on store shelves, and the fact a good portion of the music simply isn't very good.
LIKE NO SHIT!Did it really take a study like this to tell them that? Oh, and this is the first post, so booyah to the "first post idiots". This first post is actually right on the money, topic-wise that is. Follow my example. Ding Ding Ding!!!! We have a winner!
I wonder if this study was handing a teen a pack of smokes and a condom for an opinion over the newest Eminem album. 
"Dude, it like sucks OMGLOLWTF" | |
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BIGMIKE
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join:2002-06-07
Westminster, CA
| said by trparky : quote:
The factors more responsible were physical CD piracy and resale, increased competition on store shelves, and the fact a good portion of the music simply isn't very good.
LIKE NO SHIT!Did it really take a study like this to tell them that? Oh, and this is the first post, so booyah to the "first post idiots". This first post is actually right on the money, topic-wise that is. Follow my example. LIKE NO SHIT! I download the old Music it good SHIT.:D | |
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cork1958
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join:2000-02-26
Fruitport, MI
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| Re: NO SHIT! Try working on getting better talent and some more diverse music that people may actually get interested in instead of some packaged marketed steamy sack of crap that you call music!
Yeah, sex doesn't sell everything forever. People at the RIAA are complete morons. Plain and simple. How come it seems like the bigger the company, the dumber it is run? To many college educated, book smart, idiots that know nothing about the real world. | |
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startshot
Where's Da Beaver?
join:2001-05-07
Prince Albert, SK
| said by trparky : quote:
The factors more responsible were physical CD piracy and resale, increased competition on store shelves, and the fact a good portion of the music simply isn't very good.
LIKE NO SHIT!Did it really take a study like this to tell them that? DITTO!
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jeffjs
join:2000-12-11
US
·Comcast
| said by trparky :oh, and this is the first post, so booyah to the "first post idiots". This first post is actually right on the money, topic-wise that is. Follow my example. And since you said "first post", I'll include you in that group.
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God
IN Vilseck Germany
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join:2002-07-01
Colorado Springs, CO
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| said by trparky : quote:
The factors more responsible were physical CD piracy and resale, increased competition on store shelves, and the fact a good portion of the music simply isn't very good.
LIKE NO SHIT!Did it really take a study like this to tell them that? Oh, and this is the first post, so booyah to the "first post idiots". This first post is actually right on the money, topic-wise that is. Follow my example. plus there is one thing not mentioned, the fact that cd's cost so much .. i mean i can either buy the new prince cd for 13 bucks or a brand new dvd for around 15 .. what do you think i am going to buy ?
(my dvd collection is at 15 right now ... cd's 2)
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join:2002-11-13
Toms River, NJ | Re: NO SHIT! i have been buying or downloading underground shit (bands with no record labels) pretty much todays music is remakes of yesterdays but just crapier...i bought all the cd's i want so who cares anymore | |
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Slidetbone
Mazin Go
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join:2002-11-10
Land O Lakes, FL
| STOP THE PRESSES! The music SUCKS!!!
No sheet Sherlock! How come such an obvious answer took to this route?
Since the late 1990's, music took a turn from mediocre to just plain crap.
It is not about competition. It is about what the record labels are shoveling to us.
It reeks of horse crap and it is packaged to look like a sexy babe or a baddas dude. Either way, it is terrible. AND THEY MAKE MONEY OFF IT!!!
Kids buy it like candy and think it is great.
I am a musician. So lets critique it....hmm
Monotone, artificial, repetitious, lots of moaning. Hmm. They all say "baby" or "Honey" or that "ohhhhahhhh"warble that sounds like someone put a finger on a record player. Sounds like the "other artist" (God knows there are so many wannabees) only they added some skritch scratch drum noise. And that obnoxious BASS BOOOOM that sucks the air out of your lungs and is strong enough to unbolt wheels! WTF is that? MUSIC?
more like NOISE!!!!
This is such a sore subject for me. Not because of the suck azz music but because the essence of being a musician was forsaken over this "noise".
Many professional musicians whom spent hours, months, years creating wonderful masterpieces have seen those dreams fade away over some pretty faced, big boobed nobody from nowhere that does not know what b-flat is.
I'd rather buy an enema and enjoy the crap before I pluck down $18 bucks for crap I won't enjoy.
I hope the business goes under..REALLY! I hope Sony, Columbia, WB, BMG and all the multinationals all go under!
Or else get their heads out their asses.
Last year, we had a reprieve and a nice scent of fresh air when Nora Jones won the Best Song, Album and new Artist award. I laughed my ass off so hard when the losers looked at her and said "whaaa"? Yepper!
But alas....we got nothing this year and next year, we get another shaft.
STAND! Sly and the Family Stone | |
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crazediamond
That's Dr. Craze to you
Premium
join:2002-01-19
Germantown, MD
| Re: NO SHIT! Ironically, opinions like yours that this newfangled music is just noise are exactly what my parents say my grandparents said about the beatles...
I always find it shocking when musicians can't tolerate music that they don't like.
As has been said before, it would be a perfect world if everything could be unique and individual, just like you.
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Slidetbone
Mazin Go
Premium
join:2002-11-10
Land O Lakes, FL
| Re: NO SHIT! But if you look at it, The Beatles in the eyes of our parents was different than the Glen Miller stuff. It was loud rock and roll. But not noise per se.
But it was music made by musicians and not by a Yamaha machine.
Because I am a musician, I listen to all generes. From Metal to Jazz, Latin to New Age, Pop to Polka (my name should be a hint). I even love bluegrass! But I like a little bit of a variance within the styles. Unfortunately Hip Hop and the mainstream top 40's of today all sound cookie-cutterish. AND most are non-musicians.
Just someone with a nice voice or jiggly tits being exploited.
It is the same formula. No artists taking risks, no producers willing to front the money.
Go to FM radio and scan the dial. Tell me what you hear.
Sounds all the same.
You are right in a sense. But tell me what do you like about whats out there now. Please do. | |
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redxii
too big to fail
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Texas
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1 edit | Re: NO SHIT! Beatles aren't noise.
Download songs from Killswitch Engage and you will know what repetitive "noise" is. Rap is repetitive, they all sound the same, and have a curse word every 2-3 words.
All the songs I have are because of no particular artist, because they sound quite pleasant to my ear and aren't just random guitar string banging with the amp all the way up times a million.
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bit_junkie
join:2004-05-04
Maricopa, AZ
| Re: NO SHIT! said by redxii :Beatles aren't noise. Download songs from Killswitch Engage and you will know what repetitive "noise" is. Rap is repetitive, they all sound the same, and have a curse word every 2-3 words. All the songs I have are because of no particular artist, because they sound quite pleasant to my ear and aren't just random guitar string banging with the amp all the way up times a million. i actually like killswitch:) (although could just be because of the metal kick im on lately,who knows  )
i've known for along time p2p hasnt been the decline of record sales, i personally own 350 cd's not including my 3 box sets, plus i have around 50 albums on vinyl that i cant find on cd, and i still download music.
i dont listen to the radio,i gave up on that years ago(although i do listen to talk radio,but thats another topic).i mostly find new music thru friends or just searching the web.
my car stereo is a sony mp3 deck, so i just burn what i want to hear that day or week or whatever, when im driving.
the music industry needs to wake up,its not that we dont like buying cd's, we just dont like most of that crap your recording onto them. | |
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lyls
@tele.dk
| making music on a computer takes skill too...... sure you cant really do liveact but you CAN try to add some real instruments playing your own shit and do some live "mixing" and add various things to as well.... that takes alot of skill imo to do that..... and yes a nice bass IS music.... however the usual commercial crap we're seeing such as the commercial rap, pop etc truly sucks =( | |
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lupinia
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join:2004-08-24
Harrisonburg, VA | Re: NO SHIT! Yes, computerized music takes skill. So does typing a form letter or posting a DSLR reply, doesn't make it art or music necessarily. | |
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lupinia
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join:2004-08-24
Harrisonburg, VA
| Well, like the other guy said, rock and roll, while not fitting the "popular" classification of that era, still classified as music at basic levels. It had melody, harmony, and rhythm, all played with instruments that require more than a pulse to play. Now, with rap, it does not qualify as music by ANY musician's definition. It has only rhythm (barely) and poetry. It could be classified as art (though I would debate even that), but certainly not music. Even today's "rock" from bands like Nickleback has about as much creativity as a room full of accountants. It's always the exact same thing over and over again. Oh, and most of what's out there today is remade from older songs. My sister is always shocked when I point out the recognizable melody from an eighties song embedded in something she just heard on the Top 20 station. | |
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ughdamuzik
@optonline.net
| Ugh, 99C for a britney spears tune.. Nope sorry, don't think so. I only buy music of artists I support.. someetimes is the physical packaging/coverart that is the novelty because anyone can download the music now... Some value-added features must be "phyical property, not zeros and ones"
The only way people buy is on the merits of the product......... which has gone into the gutter lately, with few exceptions | |
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