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Any EVDO users here?

I purchased an antenna from that guy for a couple of hundred dollars. You can get the same one for under $40.00 through links from the manufacture. Go to www.antennas.com. - its the "ARC Freedom Antenna" from ARC Wireless Communications Products. After seeing such a price disparity between the two, I though I would wait until someone posts the "unlock" if there is one.

By the way - the antenna truly improves reception. I went from 2 bars to a solid full signal. For the couple of hundred dollars I got the proper connector to the card and the research that this particular antenna would work properly.

reply to duckxtales
Moving from Wireless Networking.

Take the EV-DO 3.7 Mbps with a grain of salt. I assume that this is running compression of the data over the air (similar to dial up modems running v42.bis). Lets see a result from dslreports.com at 3.7Mbps!

Here's a little more technical insight to EV-DO and UMTS.

»www.umtsworld.com/technology/dataspeed.htm
»www.umtsworld.com/technology/cdma2000.htm
»www.umtsworld.com/technology/wcdma.htm

I would not trust this site... It claims to sell Verizon UMTS service. There is no such beast. 'Order Verizon UMTS wireless internet broadband access & UMTS-Coverage Booster'
'Sierra Airprime UMTS 5220 Broadband Aircard with Verizon Nationwide Broadband Access Service'

Not only do they have their products confused, but this could be seen as misleading/false advertising.

Just to clarify:
UMTSWorld does not sell anything, it just provides free info.
UMTSWorld does not claim that Verizon has UMTS service
Sierra Wireless / Airprime wireless card is listed as CDMA2000 device at »www.umtsworld.com/industry/3gphones.htm
or check the google »www.google.com/search?q=%22Sierr···5220%22&
Nobody claims that Sierra Airprime 5220 is UMTS device

Thanks

reply to duckxtales

said by dumwaldo:

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... do not expect to ever see anything any better than 500 Kb/s on EV-DO. ...

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i do not use the verizon EV-DO service myself. i am just trying to help based on some publicly available information. as i understand it the upload speeds are considerably slower but i do not know the specifics off the top of my head.

reply to usa2k
A review of Verizon Wireless' EVDO can be seen here:

»nwm.mobilepipeline.com/52600779

"Although Verizon advertises typical throughput of 300 Kbps and 500 Kbps, I saw average downstream throughput of almost 600 Kbps, though upstream performance was only about 40 Kbps. Latency averaged less than 200 ms."

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reply to duckxtales
Does anyone know what the make/model of that orange router is, located on the umts-coverage / evdo-coverage website? It has the cardslot, couple rj-45s, but nothing in the pics that shows the manufacturer.

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reply to dumwaldo
hi all,

wow... kinda neat to see people speaking about our services and site... "any press is good press.. right "

anyhow.. couple of things... yes...

1) You CAN get the ANTENNA that we sell for $259 cheaper ... even $30.

BUT..

the one we sell at our site IS differnet... the antenna is the same... BUT the Coupling Cabling is TOTALLY different.. we took a mediocre $30 antenna and turned it into a pure-bred EVDO Dedicated and Tuned... Minimal resistance antenna.

2) thanks VERYYY much for the benefit of the Doubt DumbWaldo... appreciate... i will say though the that 3.7 MBPS speed is a speed that I personally verified and pushed...

it is accomplished by

a) Optimizing PROXY Settings
this is crucial due to the "tolken ring - like" Verizon data network setup... if you do NOT customize your Proxy setup to the DEDICATED Verizon Wireless Proxy (and this does NOT happen when you install the Drivers) then you are looking at massive ping times, and latency...

b) compression
but... this is Real full data compression... NON LOSSY.
in otherwords... yes.. .the compression does LOOSE data in GIF and JPG images... BUT... if you are downloading an application from cnet or the web... you can take a 10MB Executible App file and have it on your desktop within 30seconds...

c) Tuning your system to sync with the Verizon System... thats all.

so .. if you want... try the Premium Config for $199... if you're not satisfied... you get 100% of your money back...

just be honorable about it though... if it works... please admit that it works and dont lie just to get your money back... believe me... it happens to us all the time.

The honest folks are the ones that really make it a joy to be in this industry... thanks... robert kim...

»evdo-coverage.com

said by ) thanks VERYYY much for the benefit of the Doubt DumbWaldo... appreciate... i will say though the that 3.7 MBPS speed is a speed that I personally verified and pushed...[/QUOTE:

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did you notice i did not say anything to turbomkt? thats because the speed he is showing is actually possible. its faster than the average speeds i quoted and IMHO not likely to be that fast as the service grows in subscribers but that is a realistic and achievable speed. what you are claiming is impossible and it is irresponsible to lead others to believe what you are saying.

either your equipment is flawed, your method of testing is flawed or you are just plain misrepresenting something because that speed is simply not possible.

the ev-do specification has a maximum BUST speed of 2.4 Mb/s.

»www.umtsworld.com/technology/cdma2000.htm
»www.xilinx.com/esp/wireless/cell···2000.htm
»infotech.indiatimes.com/articles···4718.cms
»www.st.co.kr/eng/products/1xevdo···iew.html

in addition to the fact that you think you have broken a technical limitation of the technology your supposed results ignore the fact that at this time verizon only has their EV-DO towers connected to a T-1 connection effectivley halving the possible speeds.

under the most ideal situations available on the verizon network the best speed you could possibly achieve today would be 1.5 Mbs, the speed of the connection going to the tower.

sorry but that speed is impossible and i think it is very irresponsible to promote such bad information in your desire to make a buck. or maybe you have some better explination for disagreeing with the entire industry that agrees the top BURST speed achievable on ev-do is 2.4 Mb/s. or maybe you have a better explination of how you shattered the physical limitation at 1.54Mb/s on the T-1 line that is connected to the EV-DO tower.

or maybe you just lied to make a sale.

Testing methods could have something to do with the test results. I could see overly high data rates with compressible data, assuming that data compression is used not only on the EV-DO interface, but the T-1's as well. I do agree that the results do not agree with the physical device limits, and should not be considered legit.

reply to en102
We just got the Sierra Wireless 5220 card for EvDo and the older technology as well (1xRtt or something, sorry don't remember). It's $80/month, so not cheap, but necc for business.
Tested speeds at full reception are 3.3 Mbits, 1.6 Mbits, and 6.6 Mbits for the tests I ran one right after another. Just 2 bars reception still yields between 1.5 and 3 Mbits.
It does have something from Venturi Software that says it is used for compression. It was set to "best quality" not "fastest".
It is easy to use, you just have to have the Verizon software installed with it.
One caveat: On our laptop at least... Anytime the Verizon Connection software is run our wireless card (miniPCI 802.11b/g) MUST be turned off or the computer will reset. No blue screen, no warnings, just reset.
Haven't called tech support on it as my wife left out of town with the laptop and card on business trip.

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Re: Any EVDO users here?

reply to duckxtales
there are different versions of EV-DO...the primary versions are revision 0, but from what i heard, revision A does offer an increase in speed...i don't know what revision EV-DO tested.
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"The only thing more greedy than a corporation, are its customers."

reply to duckxtales
I'm paying $79/month for the National Access service in Sacramento. I have to have it for work but God is it slow and how many pages won't load and you have to click the reload button. It's truly worse than any modem I've ever used. 500kbps would be a God send in my opinion, much less 3.7mbps (I use an external antenna, get max bars too). Anyone know when Sacramento is being upgraded to the broadband speeds? I'll worship the ground you walk on if anyone knows because I'm seriously considering getting a WISP connection at work if broadband is going to take forever to get here.