Vvian Kalyss
join:2003-10-14
Stage 5.0
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Quality
Just gotta say that the pirated dvds we get here (outside the USA) are basically master quality, don't be fooled by them saying only downloaders get the good shit. I saw The Incredibles already retailing at my local friendly neighbourhood pirate dvd stall even before the advertisements came out, hell, even before people started talking about them in p2p groups. How is this possible if the leak is not from the SOURCE?
And they think downloaders are a big deal? Bah. I've posted it before, and I will post it again: end users are SMALL POTATOES. They need to tackle piracy where it begins, in their own ranks. They're being sold out by their own people.
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Desdinova
join:2003-01-26
Gaithersburg, MD | reply to stet
Re: Scare Tactics
You forgot hotel in-room rentals (ala SpectraVision) that usually follows theatrical release and precedes home video release. |
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stet
Volitar Prime
join:2002-03-08
Warren, MI
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Actually it's:
1) box office
2) DVD (sale and rental)
3) PPV (sometimes at the same time as 2, but rarely)
4) premium cable (sometimes it skips 3 to go here)
5) broadcast TV (rarely it will skip 3 and/or 4 to go here)
They will never get rid of the box office because that's where the "real" money is made. Most movies will pay for themselves with box office returns. Everything after that is just icing on the cake. It's rare for a movie to make more on DVD sales then it does on box office ticket sales.
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dlhusk
Premium
join:2002-06-29
Carrabelle, FL
 ·Mediacom
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Thats a good idea, averagedude. I hope some of the movie moguls read that. If you watch the flow of a movie, they are like:
1:) BOXOFFICE
2.) PAY PER VIEW
3.) MOVIE CHANNELS
4.) DVD
Like I said they want to squeeze every nickel out of it.
Here's another idea suppose you had a movie released on DVD at the same time as Boxoffice and like you say they were priced about the same. You know why that would not work? Because like someone said the theaters make millions off popcorn and coke, they would raise H***
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averagedude
join:2002-01-30
Mesa, AZ
·Cox HSI
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The point being, IF the movie was released for rental/purchase at the standard $15 - It would not be worth all the time and troubles to download. I am one who would always purchase a movie rather than download as long as the price is right. If the MPAA tries to gouge or initial release then downloading will go on forever. To me it is a simple cost/effort ratio.
As stated else where: If the movie theater does not have an "experience" that is worth paying for then their business model is not working and should not be forcefully subsidised by consumers.
I refuse to multiple purchase and view movies. Movies are a luxury for me and I am patient - I can wait for the discount DVD bin  The more I feel I am being pushed into paying for something, the more I will simply walk away. Heck, wait long enough and the movie will show up on regular tv just like lord or rings, harry potter, matrix as examples. |
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Derek_Wildstar
Why the fck is Shane walking in there?
join:2001-02-24
Iscandar
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said by sayers  :Because the movie theaters make 95% of their money of popcorn, soda, and candy sales. They make VERY little of showing a movie, that's why the price for refreshments is stupidly high. Allowing people to buy a movie the day it was released would be nice, but would put theaters out of business. Furthermore, the studio's profit margin is WAY higher on theatrical releases than on home video sales, and always will be. Studios only release a movie to home video once the revenue stream from the theaters dries up.
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Cyron
join:2002-09-24
Charlotte, NC
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If the movie theater doesn't offer an experience that will keep the seats filled, they should be closed down. My Home Theater system is better than my local theater's.
The reason they're not releasing movie's for sale at the same time, is they lose the ability to charge people multiple times for the same movie. Now, they get $8-$12 (per person) for the movie ticket, $3-$6 for people to watch it on pay-per-view before it comes out on DVD, and either $2-$5 bucks for a rental, or $15-$20 to sell, then an additional $15-$25 for the special, extendid, unrated, director's cut (with the 3 minutes of additional footage).
As long as Movie Theaters are making so much money, they will never change their model. Let's not forget, Box Office records have once again been broken this year. It will be interesting to see if they start to drop after filing lawsuits. |
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getmeonbnet
join:2004-02-24
Tacoma, WA
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said by averagedude :Why not have a move for rent/purchase at time of release? I think that would curb alot of file trading - serioulsy. This sounds good, but it'd be a pirates dream, high quality dvd rip at the same time (possibily even before!) as the official theater release. |
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sayers
join:2003-01-11
Dexter, MO
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Because the movie theaters make 95% of their money of popcorn, soda, and candy sales. They make VERY little of showing a movie, that's why the price for refreshments is stupidly high. Allowing people to buy a movie the day it was released would be nice, but would put theaters out of business. |
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averagedude
join:2002-01-30
Mesa, AZ | reply to juilinsandar
Why not have a move for rent/purchase at time of release?
I think that would curb alot of file trading - serioulsy. |
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juilinsandar
Texas Gooner
Premium
join:2000-07-17
San Benito, TX
1 edit |  reply to dlhusk
Because my local Blockbuster doesn't have a copy of "The Incredibles" 3 days after it hits theatres.
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