chriskay
Premium
join:2004-03-09
Toronto, ON
| reply to petegh
Re: Bell Canada gets green light for tv-over-coppe
said by petegh:
my big question is what will they be charging for these set top boxes ? The same as a tivo, or rent to you for like $20 a month? It will be interesting to see the price point.
Interestingly enough, a few of the survey questions had to do with pricing. IIRC, one of them was along the lines of "would you use a service like this if it was priced the same as your current digital cable offering" (yes/no), the next was "would you use a service like this if it was $10 more per month than your current digital cable offering" (yes/no), and the next one was would you dish out if it was $20 more than digital cable. I said yes to the first two, but no to the last one.
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petegh
@aei.ca | reply to Simcoe
my big question is what will they be charging for these set top boxes ? The same as a tivo, or rent to you for like $20
a month? |
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Simcoe
join:2004-11-29
Newmarket, ON
| reply to nitzguy
said by nitzguy  :Decision by CRTC here: One wonders about Shaw and Starchoice whether or not they cannibalize each other's subscribers. They do, Shaw kept on calling me when I had *choice.
I'm sure it'll have some impact, but I'm sure if the customer cancels Expressvu and goes to Bell's VDSL service (or whatever they end up calling it) that Expressvu's Winback team would not call them....and vice versa  |
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HiVolt
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Toronto, ON
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Not everyone needs HDTV and stuff. I'd be perfectly happy with just one TV for my own use.
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MustardMan
join:2003-05-22
Sealand
| reply to mr weather
I have been looking into VDSL which makes this whole TV over POTS possible. IMHO a lot of this TV over copper stuff is just marketecture BS to make stockholders happy.
The numbers just don't add up.
With DSL you have to be within about 3 miles of fibre or exchange building. With VDSL the theoretical distance is about 1 mile but practically it is less than about 1/2 mile if you want to do more than watch 1 channel simultaneously with high speed internet or whatever. Actually, to get the full theoretical limit of 54Mb/s of VDSL you have be within about 1000feet or less. No matter how you look at it, you have to be REAL close to fibre for VDSL to work well.
MTS in Manitoba has been running VDSL for about a year now I think. Currently, only about 40% of their biggest city can get the service. It has a limitation of 3 standard definition channels simultaneously.
Don't even get me started about set top boxes run with M$ software (LOL!). No matter how you slice it, it is going to be a looooong time and a lot of expensive infrastructure upgrading (and M$ software upgrading/bug fixing) before a system like this can compete with cable which has WAY more bandwidth capability and can reach WAY more people right now. |
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Corvus
Flaming Tards Since 2003
Premium,VIP
join:2003-11-26 | reply to Gundam_MX
The end is a set-top box connected to the phone line with "usual" audio/viddeo outputs.
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TemporalFlux
Premium
join:2003-08-07
Ont, Canada | reply to Gundam_MX
Ethernet to M$/Bell PVR thingy from XDSL modem/router/whatever. From M$/Bell thingy to TV over Coax RCA or SVIDEO or DVI cables I would assume. |
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Gundam_MX
Stomping Robot
join:2003-06-27
1 edit | reply to Corvus
said by Corvus :It's based on current POTS lines! We can guess that if you have problems with DSL right now, you'll have problems with this too. Okay so the medium of transmission is through the telephone lines. The "copper over wire" expression confused me.
Since I gave up cable a long time ago then what do you plug into your TV? What do the ends look like?
A telephone cable or a end that looks like coaxial cable?  |
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Corvus
Flaming Tards Since 2003
Premium,VIP
join:2003-11-26
| reply to Gundam_MX
said by Gundam_MX :If Bell is going on copper now, would they have to install their own lines or are they going to use existing ones like Rogers? It's based on current POTS lines! We can guess that if you have problems with DSL right now, you'll have problems with this too.
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Wes C Addle
Man Of The Hour
join:2003-07-28
Canada
·Acanac
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| reply to Gundam_MX
said by Gundam_MX :If Bell is going on copper now, would they have to install their own lines or are they going to use existing ones like Rogers? You are confused. They already have copper going to every home in their service area. |
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Gundam_MX
Stomping Robot
join:2003-06-27 | reply to mr weather
Re: Bell Canada gets green light for tv-over-copper
If Bell is going on copper now, would they have to install their own lines or are they going to use existing ones like Rogers? |
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SK
The member formerly known as Cow
Premium
join:2001-05-18
Toronto
clubs:
 ·Rogers Hi-Speed
| reply to mr weather
Re: Bell Canada gets green light for tv-over-coppe
Well, people got tired of sitting and waiting. Having control over what you see on TV is a good thing. In the future, you'll be able to get everything on demand.
Yes this is the modern incarnation of WebTV. MS bought it a long time ago. This is a descendant of that.
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Gundam_MX
Stomping Robot
join:2003-06-27
| reply to mr weather
Re: Bell Canada gets green light for tv-over-copper
If Bell is offering the same channels and content that other cable companies are offering then I'm not too interested.
They should offer channels that other companies can't get.
Personally I think they should pick up some channels like G4techTV (same as US) and the Anime Network. |
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mr weather
Premium
join:2002-02-27
Mississauga, ON
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Not meaning to sound like a carmudgeon... This interactive tv is all fine and good but whatever happened to the days when all I asked of tv was to sit there and provide entertainment without much input from me.
If I wanted to interact I'd go on my computer.
Is this the modern incarnation of Web TV that crashed and burned just before the dot-com bubble burst?
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chriskay
Premium
join:2004-03-09
Toronto, ON
1 edit | reply to SK
Re: Bell Canada gets green light for tv-over-coppe
No, just some market research.
EDIT: I HOPE I can become part of the trial! But I think it's already well underway. |
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SK
The member formerly known as Cow
Premium
join:2001-05-18
Toronto
clubs: | reply to chriskay
You should be!
Just kidding, so are you part of a trial? |
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chriskay
Premium
join:2004-03-09
Toronto, ON | reply to chriskay
There are also PVR functions, but I don't have the screenshot for that one. Sorry! |
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SK
The member formerly known as Cow
Premium
join:2001-05-18
Toronto
clubs: | reply to chriskay
Mmm... me likey! |
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chriskay
Premium
join:2004-03-09
Toronto, ON
| reply to yabos
Here we go... |
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chriskay
Premium
join:2004-03-09
Toronto, ON
| reply to jeffster1970
Re: Bell Canada gets green light for tv-over-copper
said by jeffster1970 :Oh please let it be so!! It will be like, see ya later Rogers! Rogers is getting worse every day. Now the analog channels pixelate..ANALOG! What the hell? Only the true analog channels don't pixelate, they just get snowy every so often... You must have a digital box. All of the lower channels which used to be analog are now swapped for a digital feed.
If you're getting pixelation, it probably means that your signal has degraded somewhere in your wiring. Call Rogers and they'll come over and probably install a signal booster for free. That fixed my problem.
-Chris |
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