wesm
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Lewisville, TX
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Re: Earthlink blocks port 25 outgoing!
This makes me glad I'm not an Earthlink subscriber ... One thing I notice Earthlink cheerfully skipped over, and no one has mentioned here yet, is that some people run their own mail servers. If my ISP did this (which would be a violation by them of their own terms of service), that would mean my own, properly secured, mail relay would no longer function.
Its not an ISPs job to harass everyone due to the actions of the few. Give me the service I pay for and run the abusers off the network. If that means I need to pay a bit more to finance the salaries of the people who do that, then wonderful, I'm all for it.
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justin
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| Well if they only block smtp outgoing, as they imply, then your own mail server would still work for incoming mail. And if you want to use it for outgoing mail, you just have to reconfig it to point to the earthlink mail server which is a very easy change.
And quite possibly if you want to email 10,000 people, you warn them and them exempt the spam trap for you.
Of course this also means they have to be in the loop on what you do with your connection. And they might decide mailing 10,000 people (for whatever reason) is not something that is allowed on your line. |
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graysonf
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Fort Lauderdale, FL
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Earthlink/Mindspring does not allow any type of servers to be run from residential DSL or dialup accounts. It's in their AUP, so the fact that servers aren't allowed shouldn't be news to any of their impacted customers.
The difference now is that rather than merely prohibiting mail servers (and connections to off domain servers) via AUP, they are insuring the prohibition by technical means.
While this is new to Earthlink, Mindspring has been doing it for quite some time. I suppose the recent merger of the two has allowed some of the Mindspring mindset to migrate to the company that gobbled Mindspring up.
Look for similar announcements soon in other Earthlink owned former Mindspring aquisitions, if they haven't already been made - places like Netcom - if they even still have an identity of their own.
And yes, there are ISPs that do cater to those who wish to run servers. I shopped around to find the service and policies I need to operate the way I want to. There's no reason any of the impacted Earthlink customers can't vote with their feet and wallets. It may cost them more, but in my case it didn't.
I can get garbage DSL service from numerous ISPs with draconian AUPs, or excellent and accomodating service for the same price - to the penny. |
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Anon | reply to justin
I used to use Global Crossing for my dialup provider, but after they made the move to PRServ.net (which is an AT&T/IBM ICO group), they were blocking Port 25.. But moreso they didn't give me access to any MX server (stupid screwup). GC used to use UUNet, same provider as Earthlink uses here.
Ok first off I couldn't send mail through GC's MX's.. Then I could finally. But I couldn't use my domain.. Why would I use Frontiernet.net email? I could change providers at anytime, just because of stupid things like this.
Earthlink WILL route my @Maine.rr.com email... They dont' say 'no relaying'. As long as that's the case, I don't mind, as much anyway..
I run my own MX's for a reason.. It's too bad I won't be able to get at them.
Duely noted that 1-Link.net blocks 25, and they use UUNet too. |
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