rit56
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do they censor the content? it is China after all and they do spy on their citizens and control what they can read. |
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steven s
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| said by rit56  :they do spy on their citizens and control what they can read. That's why Clinton endorses it
Dems=Communists |
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FLECOM
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Cyron
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Heh, that's like saying Reps=Fascists |
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Anubis Prime
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1 edit | Fascism = Nazism;
Nazism = National Socialism;
Socialism = preferred by Democrats.
Be careful.
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xrobertcmx
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| Nah, you have it wrong.
Nazism was radical conservativism, but they where socialist. Now I know I'm a liberal dem, but I in no way prefer socialism over a free market economy. I just want a better America with better education, less expensive health care, and fewer jobs being sent overseas.
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Geebo
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i would not guess he is kidding .. however maybe
dems= socialist... would be more accurate |
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NwkEWR
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said by xrobertcmx :Nah, you have it wrong. Nazism was radical conservativism, but they where socialist. Now I know I'm a liberal dem, but I in no way prefer socialism over a free market economy. I just want a better America with better education, less expensive health care, and fewer jobs being sent overseas. "We can't expect the American People to jump from Capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of Socialism, until they awaken one day to find that they have Communism." - Nikita Sergeyevich Khrushchev - First Secretary of the Communist Party of USSR (1953-1964). Premier of the USSR (1958-1964)
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Combat Chuck
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I prefer
dems leadership = Marxists in dems clothing
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bmn
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hiatus | Well, for clarification's sake...
Marxist != Communist (as in Russia and China) |
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calvoiper
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| Yeah, but you have to remember that when Clinton first visited China, he and Hil both admired the "orderly" outpouring of people lining the roadways they used.
I suspect that they both would like to have the power to force us to toady up in that fashion should Hil ever get her own ticket to the Oval Office....
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| said by calvoiper :I suspect that they both would like to have the power to force us to toady up in that fashion should Hil ever get her own ticket to the Oval Office.... Most politicians want it that way... 
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Combat Chuck
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said by bmn :Well, for clarification's sake... Marxist != Communist (as in Russia and China) To clairify the Clairification:
True, but Marxist is what I meant.
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vinnie97
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excellent post.
The move to Communism (and tyranny) calls for 1 step forwards, 2 steps back. |
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bmn
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said by Combat Chuck : said by bmn :Well, for clarification's sake... Marxist != Communist (as in Russia and China) To clairify the Clairification: True, but Marxist is what I meant. I'd argue just plain socialist (lowercase s because a capital S is a particular group to which they are not members)...
Socialists tend to get to the middle part of Marx where it talks about government control of capital and stop... They either ignore or forget that there is more than that and/or believe that the midpoint is good enough.
Marxists get past that to the end where the state ceases to exist, people have freedom, etc.
In essence, socialists like Marx, but Marxists understand Marx .
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xrobertcmx
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Ok? And?
See, the thing that makes me sick lately is that people are claiming that just because we want the government to protect the people and some kind of safety net we either hate America or we are communist.
The truth is that most Dems love their country. I personally have had it with radical right. My grandfather served, my uncle and father served, I served, my cousin served, my brother in law is in Iraq right now, and should I belive in the cause I would go back the moment my country called.
And the man who sent my friends and family to Iraq never finished his time in the national gaurd durring a war that took my uncle.
None of us are communists, none of us hate our country. We just want it to be a country we can be proud of again.
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Anubis Prime
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Linuvas,
Hitler was the farthest thing from a conservative. That's just propaganda. None of his policies economic or social reflect anything resembling that of conservatism. My analogy was just a pun. Heck, Saddam's Baath party was a socialist party, but I don't think my democratic neighbor is putting Olympic athletes arms and legs into plastic shredders.
Jobs overseas? GWB didn't sign NAFTA into law. Jobs don't go overseas because of union labor rates. They go overseas because of tax burden, regulation and litigation...all three of which the left is on the wrong side of. Do you realize that on the average almost 20% of the price of most in-country products and services you buy goes to cover litigation cost.
Cheaper healthcare...again, the government's job is not to establish prices. The government is already involved in healthcare--it's called Medicare and it's a disaster. It frightens me that some want them in charge of all of our healtcare needs. Again...litigation is a source of problems. Check which political party is in the back pocket of the Bar Association and then tell me that they are going to go along with any tort reform measures that come from the White House.
Better education...we all want that. Throwing more money at failing schools isn't the answer. Setting standards and pulling our kids' education out of the stranglehold of the Department of Education and the ACLU (American Communist Lawyers Association) would be a great start. Public education was much more effective from the 1950's through the 1970's. What happened?
I'm glad you are a proponent of a free market economy. Most of your political party (read: politicians not rank & file folks)is in favor of socialism. Go to dsausa.org. There your can find out just how many democrats in government belong the Democratic Socialists of America.
Finally, most horrible legislation is forced upon us by the left using their activist judges. Things that would never, ever pass in the legislature or pass the ballot box in referendum are shoved down our thoats by these radicals in the court. How many of these laws are forced on us by conservatives? Outside of some blue laws from long ago which are drying up  , (The Patriot Act doesn't count as it has bipartisan support, and has vocal critics on both sides of the isle--besides the Legislature passed it, not some judge) I can't think of any. Lawmaking belongs in the Legislature where the elected officials are held accountable to the voters. This is why the left is terrified of the upcoming judicial nominations. They can be perfect judges with pure constructionist interpretation of the Constitution in their opinions, but they will be personally and professionally attacked because the left fears that their power to force law upon us will be gone. Then it's back to scaring grandma, and telling minorities that republicans are going to kill them.
Take care. We should probably take this further via email as a courtesy to those in the forum. Use my email address in my profile if this would be good for you.
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Lumberjack
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Newport News, VA | reply to bmn
As in bathroom brawler Richard Marx? |
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Lumberjack
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Oh, and you think the government can do this for you? Good try, but the government also handles social security, the IRS, lets not forget unfair taxation, etc...
To go about getting a better government you need LESS federal government. Which by the way has gotten way too lager and beyond what was ever intended by the founders. The Constitution being my reference for that statement. Heath care, education, "social security" (why people think the government can do better I have yet to figure out), and others are PERFECT for the state to handle yet for some odd ball reason everybody thinks the federal government is designed to handle such things. Remember, the states are individual states and the government ties them to gather to ensure the liberties of all of the people in the United States. Anyway, the Constitution backs me on this and most of us could do good by reading through it again.
In any case, the democratic party is one with socialist beliefs. Look at other socialist countries and you will know why America is number one... because it is NOT socialist, at least for another four years anyway. |
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| We aren't number one, we are closer to something like 17 now. The socialists are kicking our butt. The Euro started at a value of $0.89, it is now worth close to $1.40. I think Denmark has had the #1 best place to live now since I was in Elementary school, and we are having to import talent they can produce in house because higher education is so overly expensive. |
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