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navalpatel

join:2003-07-28
Lubbock, TX
reply to DaMaGeINC
Re: How about.

unless you are downloading multiple files at once all the time, I do not really see the benefit of having such high speeds... Japan has 100 mb and its useless to them.


imrf
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said by navalpatel See Profile:

Japan has 100 mb and its useless to them.
And you know that it's useless to the for a fact? If it was useless then they wouldn't buy it.

JPCass

join:2001-01-23
Denver, CO

Plenty of people will pay for things they don't need, like cars that will do 160 mph, or go off road, when they never actually use them for that. The Japanese in particular are noted for being infatuated with spending huge amounts to have the latest gadgetry, regardless of its real productive use. That's marketing.


imrf
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Utica, MI
Yes, I know the Japanese love new technology. But making an assumption that those speeds are useless is asinine. Besides, they pay less for those speeds anyways, so why not have them anyways.


DaMaGeINC
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Im sure their "internet world" is alot more advanced than ours. They use Video phone's VOD, and alot more stuff that we haven't even begun to conceive. They are 30 years ahead of us. Plain and simple


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Just an example, go to Dlinks website, and go to one of thier International websites. And check out the products. That stuff blows my mind away. Here, they are just now getting into wi-fi and simple things. They are selling Video phone units and crap.
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Derch
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join:2004-10-16
Tulsa, OK
reply to navalpatel
How about the "Halo Effect":
»www.networkingpipeline.com/showA···55300023

That would solve some issues.


Goober
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reply to navalpatel
said by navalpatel See Profile:

unless you are downloading multiple files at once all the time, I do not really see the benefit of having such high speeds... Japan has 100 mb and its useless to them.
I didn't know that you were so familiar with the Japanese and their uses of broadband. Care to enlighten us further as to their broadband needs?


Goober
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said by JPCass See Profile:


Plenty of people will pay for things they don't need, like cars that will do 160 mph, or go off road, when they never actually use them for that. The Japanese in particular are noted for being infatuated with spending huge amounts to have the latest gadgetry, regardless of its real productive use. That's marketing.
In that case it is a perceived need. There are many things that I don't actually need, but need for my sense of happiness. I don't actually need 4mbps/500kbps service (heck, I don't really even need broadband), but I want/need it because I perceive it as such.

Needs and wants are very fluidly interchangeable.


IGotThePower
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Japan Inc.

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said by navalpatel See Profile:

Japan has 100 mb and its useless to them.
Why are you so sure? I used it and I can tell you I had an upload unmatchable by ADSL or cable...

JPCass

join:2001-01-23
Denver, CO

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said by Goober See Profile:

In that case it is a perceived need. There are many things that I don't actually need, but need for my sense of happiness. I don't actually need 4mbps/500kbps service (heck, I don't really even need broadband), but I want/need it because I perceive it as such.

Needs and wants are very fluidly interchangeable.
Very eloquently put - from a marketing rationale.

And do you really want to suggest that your sense of happiness depends on things purchased?

I think that what's lacking in that rationale is a further division between what's wanted and is at least to some extent useful, and that which serves no purpose except to feed some psychological factors, possibly ones that are only even the creations of marketing to begin with. To some extent, things like broadband speed are useful when it's at a level that you can notice, and gain some benefit from. It may save you time, and provide a more satisfactory experience, which have some value. Beyond that, if an excess makes no difference or only a very marginal one, what is the point? Though marketing tells us that bragging rights, the sense of "keeping up with the Joneses", "being on top of the world", etc., are worth paying for, do they really have any value?

I think we can observe where focusing on illusory and marginal qualities, rather than real value, is getting the Japanese economy.


Goober
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I agree to an extent. But I still have to say that anything above the basic requirements for subsisting is really a degree of want. Although, the definition of necessity seems to be a creeping one.

As for the Japanese, I'm not sure what they use their connections for exactly, but if they do a lot of downloading and listening to music or video, maybe it really is a need? I don't know.

Again, on an absolutely base level, anything beyond feeding your family and giving them the basic necessities and maybe schooling is a want.


Jammy
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said by Goober See Profile:

In that case it is a perceived need. There are many things that I don't actually need, but need for my sense of happiness. I don't actually need 4mbps/500kbps service (heck, I don't really even need broadband), but I want/need it because I perceive it as such.

Needs and wants are very fluidly interchangeable.
I too have a fast cable connection: 4000/521. I like the speed and hate to browse the web on a dialup or the lower tiered speeds offered by say SBC or even Cox HSI's lowest tier.

I mean . . .why get broadband unless you want the speed? I have a need for speed so it is a definite want for me.

I did try the highest tier with 5000/768 but I saw no real difference since I do not game.

jammy
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