Jason Levine
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Re: whatever it takes
said by Nerdtalker  :You've let them remain there, and you'd be part of the problem. I haven't let them remain there. My ISP may have or they may just not know that they are there just yet or they may be going through their process to warn the spammer before booting them. In any case, I, as a website operator, don't know what my network segment neighbors are doing and I really don't have time to worry about that.
said by Nerdtalker :If you're not against spam, you're for it. I'm definitely against spam, but I'm also against using a sledgehammer to swat a fly. DDoSing spammers just generates more network traffic and is illegal in and of itself. Bayesian filters are effective at weeding out spam without generating more network traffic. And education will help keep people from buying from spam. (Which cuts spammers' profits which makes it harder to make a living from spamming.)
said by Nerdtalker :Either way, the spammers don't even deserve your defense. No, but the sites that you take out as collateral damage do. They aren't supporting spam, they just happen to live next door to a spammer. If one of my neighbors on my block were to have been found guilty of fraud, should I be sent to jail too? Do I somehow bear some responsibility for the fraud that my neighbor committed even if I had never talked to him/her and didn't know what they were doing?
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Nerdtalker
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said by Jason Levine :You are also taking out every website that is on the same network segment. Just because I happen to live next door to a spammer, is it appropriate to bomb my driveway as well? You've let them remain there, and you'd be part of the problem.
If you're not against spam, you're for it.
Either way, the spammers don't even deserve your defense.
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Jason Levine
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You are also taking out every website that is on the same network segment. Just because I happen to live next door to a spammer, is it appropriate to bomb my driveway as well? |
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Nerdtalker
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said by Jason Levine :Including sinking to their level or lower? Sorry, but I'd prefer to get rid of spammers without compromising my ethics. I'd rationalize it by saying you're giving them a taste of their own medicine.
Spam is effectively DOS'ing the ability to not check your inbox without having 100+ spamvertisements for vi/\gra.
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Touch a thistle timidly, and it pricks you; grasp it boldly, and its spines crumble. -William S. Halsey
Kazaa Is Spyware. Gator / Claria Is Spyware.
I'm testing Gmail's spam filters: Broadbandreports1@gmail.com
Spam: 1186 |
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