 AuthorityObama Biden '12
join:2000-03-29
Woodland Hills, CA | [eMule] Peer Guardian I understand the arguement that apps like Peer Guardian aren't really usefull because the RIAA or anyone else you might be trying to block can alway change their provider. That being the case what's the arguement FOR using it? |
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 removedPremium,VIP
join:2002-02-08
Houston, TX
kudos:36 | False sense of security... and, well, not a whole lot else. |
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AuthorityObama Biden '12
join:2000-03-29
Woodland Hills, CA | said by removed:False sense of security... and, well, not a whole lot else. I don't believe the people working on this are that dumb. |
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 nfxThe WirePremium
join:2001-05-21
Vancouver, BC
kudos:1 | the creators aren't the ones who are dumb, it's the consumers who think they're getting great protection from using/buying PG.
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removedPremium,VIP
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Houston, TX
kudos:36 | reply to Authority
said by Authority: said by removed:False sense of security... and, well, not a whole lot else. I don't believe the people working on this are that dumb. I do.
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AuthorityObama Biden '12
join:2000-03-29
Woodland Hills, CA
1 edit | OK let me get this right. The people who make it are dumb. The Emule developers who include it are dumb, and the people who use it are dub because it has no value?
Well surely THEY have heard these argiement, and I doubt they agree that they are dumb. What I'm trying to understand is what their side is? |
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nfxThe WirePremium
join:2001-05-21
Vancouver, BC
kudos:1 | who's 'side'? what 'side'?
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AuthorityObama Biden '12
join:2000-03-29
Woodland Hills, CA | said by nfx:who's 'side'? what 'side'?
The developers don't agree that they're "dumb", and they have surely heard the objections of people who cll it a "false sense of security". They must think otherwise ecause they're still working on it, and projetcs like Emule are integrating ways to use these block lists so clearly some pretty intelligent people think it's worth the effort. |
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 jonezGot Anime?Premium
join:2004-09-24
Stow, MA | I am an admin on a tracker website (don't ask me which one because I won't tell  ) and we have it set up to block certain IP addresses...well every single one that you can find on peer guardian is on our database, as well as others that we block from using our tracker.
A lot of trackers do that, however those are only the official and known IP address of major coporations such as Disney, RIAA and MPAA. Where they get you is where neither Peer guardian nor any other app can protect you -- They use bots on IPs that are not public (such as websites), so to you and peer guardian and any IP blocking app, they look just like any other user on a torrent or downloading from you on edonkey, you're never going to know when they will hit you because you don't have their IP address. |
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 QumahlinNever Enough TimePremium,MVM
join:2001-10-05
united state | reply to Authority
said by Authority:OK let me get this right. The people who make it are dumb. The Emule developers who include it are dumb, and the people who use it are dub because it has no value? Well surely THEY have heard these argiement, and I doubt they agree that they are dumb. What I'm trying to understand is what their side is? Because by including it with emuie, etc it's attracting new users to emule thinking that they are any safer.
Thier side is nothing more then recognition, getting donations, gettin traffic to their site etc.
It's just like the websites that have that ridiculous "!00% tested guaranteed hacker proof" banners. Now anyone with computer knowledge knows there is no such thing, but the site owner hopes that by giving you a false sense of security you will be more likely to order/signup/etc.
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jonezGot Anime?Premium
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Stow, MA | said by Qumahlin:It's just like the websites that have that ridiculous "!00% tested guaranteed hacker proof" banners. Now anyone with computer knowledge knows there is no such thing, but the site owner hopes that by giving you a false sense of security you will be more likely to order/signup/etc. And I actually believed them!
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 thender2Glamour ProfessionPremium
join:2004-05-16
Staten Island, NY
1 edit | reply to Authority
Get the latest peerguardian and the latest blocklist, and try to go to »www.sennheiserusa.com . Try to browse around a bit.
See, it sucks. They haven't fixed this in months. It's kind of ironic that a program meant to prevent scans from people who don't want you to download music, blocks the most popular hi-fi headphone site, and many many more. I'm not sure if it's still there now, but it was for months and months.
Peerguardian is littered with IPs that have nothing to do with its goal of blocking industry scanners. If I tried Peerguardian for any longer than a few minutes I'm sure I could find many more sites it falsely blocks. I bring up the Sennnheiser site site because the irony is funny, but this is the case with many websites - and even worse, with normal users who share and download files. PG blocks half the internet under the assumption that they work for the RIAA, and that's not the way to get things done. :hm:
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AuthorityObama Biden '12
join:2000-03-29
Woodland Hills, CA | I'd really like to heard from a "pro-peergurardian" person. |
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 SenseBendPremium
join:2004-09-12
Orangeville, ON | reply to Authority
Good luck finding one. PeerGaurdian is a joke. |
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AuthorityObama Biden '12
join:2000-03-29
Woodland Hills, CA | said by SenseBend:Good luck finding one. PeerGaurdian is a joke.
You'd make lousy debaters.
Brett |
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jonezGot Anime?Premium
join:2004-09-24
Stow, MA
2 edits | Someone who's a pro-peer guardian would be either someone who doesn't know what they are talking about and is misinformed on the wonders of peer guardian's capabilities or someone who is lying, (persuading to put it more delicately) to use peer guardian and feel safe from.
EDIT: hows that for debate. |
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