DrVidiBoomBa
No Respect
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join:2000-02-17
Kirkland, WA
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 ·Comcast
| reply to Laser0
Re: Emails not getting through to my email account
I just changed to Thunderbird Email software from outlook express and before I changed over I did a send & recieve via outlook express and no new email.
I loaded up Tbird and did a send and recieve and got 5 new emails from friends and 1 spam.
I find that kinda weird. The dates were pretty old too, dated September.
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cpw
@194.224.x.x
| reply to techie68
I think techie68 is overly simplifying things. It appears they are blocking mail from IPs that are within a range designated as dynamic on the assumption that these are likely to be less protected. The problem I have is that I have a static address within one of these ranges and my mails have suddenly started bouncing. You can check your IP on www.sorbs.net database. If it's flagged as active don't bother using their support forms as they'll just ignore you. |
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amcorona
p00p
join:2004-12-26
Bayside, NY
| Not sure if anyone posted this but I have noticed some mail servers are set up not to accept email from a domain name that can not be resolved.
If I send email from an intranet machine to the outside world, chances are that mail will be blocked because the internal machine can not be accessed by anyone outside our internal domains.
e.g. user@us.ibm.com (works)
user@whiteplains.ibm.com (will not work because it is an internal domain) |
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amcorona
p00p
join:2004-12-26
Bayside, NY
1 edit | reply to DrVidiBoomBa
Do you have your mail clients set up to LEAVE MESSAGES ON THE SERVER?
That will happen.
You probably had outlook set up at some point in time to leave messages on the server. You then installed FB and when it connected to your mail server for the first time, it saw those old messages and downloaded them to your system.
If you don't plan on accessing your mailbox via a web browser, I would set up the mail client to not leave messages on the server. |
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gracie
Geek Goddess
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join:2003-07-15
confusion
| reply to amcorona
said by amcorona  : some mail servers are set up not to accept email from a domain name that can not be resolved. interesting, but totally unrelated, of course, to the issue in this thread. these are perfectly resolvable domain names that are being blocked.
btw, most internal email addys won't work outside the intranet; that's why to send email from your work machine, you ned to use the other, public addy. that's more for the protection of the internal network than the other way around.
so, you're near here in w.p. and working for poor blue? hang in there  .
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DrVidiBoomBa
No Respect
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join:2000-02-17
Kirkland, WA
clubs: | reply to amcorona
Nope, I never have that enabled... |
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kenyg
join:2001-02-09
Hatboro, PA
| reply to Laser0
I just found out about this. A client in FL evidently has been sending work to me since Friday. I've been receiving email, but not his.
This is horrible! They are screwing with peoples livelyhoods.
Will be calling VZ shortly.
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kenyg
join:2001-02-09
Hatboro, PA
| reply to Laser0
called - I was told it will be several weeks before this is cleared up.
I did tell the rep, that she should inform whomever, that this should have been done another way. I've been with Vz for almost 4yrs, and email is very important. I told her if this was not resolved, I would be forced to cancel my dsl and go elsewhere.
I told her I have no way of knowing if people have an open relay or not - but they report to me that they send hundreds of emails daily, and only email to my address was not going through.
unacceptable.
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dholroyd
join:2004-06-22
Sudbury, MA
| reply to gracie
I have spoken to Verizon Customer Service, been given a credit for two months DSL, and explained the problems the SPAM filter is causing to a Customer Support supervisor. They listened, sympathized, and said they'd get back to me. In the meantime, my list of International ISP's who are blocked to my certain knowledge has grown to 11, including Optus in Australia, Pipex in the UK, Tiscali in France and the UK.
Like other users, I have moved my email service to GmailVerizon's DSL service is great: cheap, fast, reliable. But as a result of this insanity, I decided to sell my Verizon stock. They are a phone company. No upside. |
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hescominsoon
join:2003-02-18
Brunswick, MD
·Comcast
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to kenyg
said by kenyg :called - I was told it will be several weeks before this is cleared up. I did tell the rep, that she should inform whomever, that this should have been done another way. I've been with Vz for almost 4yrs, and email is very important. I told her if this was not resolved, I would be forced to cancel my dsl and go elsewhere. I told her I have no way of knowing if people have an open relay or not - but they report to me that they send hundreds of emails daily, and only email to my address was not going through. unacceptable. I actually do not use vz e-mail at all. This is not reason to kill a vz account. use yahoo or if you need an invite i am sure there are plenty of folks out there who have some to give away. I have 4 to give out here. Also vz does not block port 25 on dsl so you can use another mail server(like gmail or your own domain if you have one).
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snatchmo
@4.28.x.x |  reply to Laser0
Well hell yes that is what spam filters are for, so I can decied what I want to receive and not receive. Verizion is now in the business of censoring my email???? They are actually going to let me receive what the want me to receive??? |
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kenyg
join:2001-02-09
Hatboro, PA | reply to Laser0
I set up gmail with pop access. Goodbye verizon email.
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hescominsoon
join:2003-02-18
Brunswick, MD | reply to hescominsoon
this was widely reported on the NANOG mailing list. The problem appears to be a badly flawed authentication system that was put into place.
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fgoldstein
join:2003-01-21
Newton Highlands, MA
·RCN CABLE
| reply to Laser0
Verizon has just petitioned the FCC for the same "forbearance" that BellSouth asked for. This would give them the right to kick off independent ISPs from their DSL network, and possibly even kick off business ISPs from using T1 or T3 leased lines. The idea is that you'd get Verizon Online over the Verizon wire, or use your cable company, or hope some other company like Worldcom or Metromedia Fiber wires your building. (Oops, they're all bankrupt, and their successors-in-interest have stopped wiring. But it's still legal for a competitor to trench the street.)
While Verizon doesn't plan to block web mail, and might even allow you (at least for now, since it's not a legal requirement) to POP mail from other servers, doesn't it warm the cockles of your heart to know that you might soon have no other DSL options?
And unless you live in a major city, or in local calling range (*conservatively* defined) of a major city, you may lose dial-up ISP access as well, if they get their way.
Fans of the FCC web site should go to e-filing, ECFS, and look at Docket 04-440. (ECFS doesn't use the "WC" part of the docket number.) |
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stuartward
@azte.blu
| reply to Laser0
OK if this was a phone company blocking all calls from outside the US wouldn't that be in breach of universal service obligation. Wasn't there a case many years ago of exactly this in the time of multiple phone networks, operators putting calls through to a rival business rather than the called business? |
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ScottJennings
@comcast.net | reply to Laser0
Verizon seems to block based on the sender's domain.
If you forge the return address to some other unfiltered domain, it should go through. |
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hobgoblin
Sortof Agoblin
Premium
join:2001-11-25
Orchard Park, NY
clubs:
| reply to fgoldstein
fgoldstein posted
'And unless you live in a major city, or in local calling range (*conservatively* defined) of a major city, you may lose dial-up ISP access as well, if they get their way."
What BS
Hob
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wadonoel
Premium
join:2004-11-16
New York, NY
| reply to ScottJennings
So far from what I've seen, it's not based on the sender's domain but the sender's SMTP server. My mails get lost if I use a SMTP server(with POP before SMTP) in Japan and goes through when I use Earthlink's SMTP(SMTP-AUTH) using the same email account. |
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A Little Bird
| reply to Laser0
I have it confirmed that Verizon's is blocking all international IP space from RIPE, APNIC, etc etc and only unblocking IP's when escalations are made. The security team management thinks this is going to stop their inbound spam problems that they have ignored for years.
Make sure you call Verizon corporate offices at 1095 Avenue of the Americas in NY and lodge a compliant in Executive Escalations about this hair-brained idea.
Verizon Executive management REALLY needs to re-evaluate their security management and team procedures again. Maybe this time they will do something about it. |
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Laser0
join:2003-10-19
| Get this, as of today, my company's UK based hosting service is blocking anything that comes from a Verizon IP address. I just tried using our UK based mail server to send mail through my companie's mail sever and the UK host rejected the connection from the Verizon IP address.
Is this retaliation?...this is getting ridiculous |
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