rtcpenguin
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Fairfax, VA
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Re: Good to hear!
said by Vamp  : said by SequimPC :10% sounds reasonable. I would believe as much as 15-20%. Not really ... The article means 53% of internet users are on a highspeed connection, it is not talking about percent of US or percent of population.. I think you guys misread... 53% sounds reasonable as an estimate and only an estimate.. 10% sounds way way to low. This study is focused on the US, correct?
If the other article said 10% of Americans had broadband, and this one says 50% of internet users are on broadband, that would mean only 20% of Americans are wired, and that cant be right...I'll look later to see if I can find that 10% statistic.
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entropy1
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join:2002-09-25 | reply to BBWEST
Why don't you relax and act like an adult instead of an oblivious teen. |
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LoneGreyWolf
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join:2002-09-09
Bath, NY
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While I understand your argument Miah, I am actually someone who doesn't have broadband available to them. Wait I guess I can't say that, but satellite isn't viable for how much internet usage my family uses. We would get Fap'ed to hell and back. Verizon in NY no longer offers ISDN to residential homes and they won't run a T1 to my home either. We have no wireless and no cable service for TV, only Satellite TV. My only hope will be FIOS, but I doubt I will see that as well. I call every month like clock work to ask if DSL is available and I know the answer every month. Nope! I ask about FIOS and I am told that Verizon wants everyone to have FIOS, but I need to be patient. The funny thing is everyone I talk to up here says Verizon has said the same thing about DSL as well.
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Miah1
join:2004-10-15
Belton, TX
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Getting broadband isn’t necessarily as difficult or as unavailable as people would like to believe – Now, before you guys turn on the incinerators give me a change to back this statement with data. You have to look at how broadband is defined... Anything over 128kb a sec is "technically" considered to be broadband. The problem is that ISDN line (128kb) and fractional or full T1's or other dedicated broadband solutions, which tend to be more widely available, are NOT cost effective for residential use and therefore often not considered. Considering that a typical ISDN might run around $39.00 for 64kb channel from the phone company and $39.00 for the other channel to get to the full 128kb, then you have to pay for an ISP that supports it usually $39.00 per channel again so the final cost could run the end user up to $150.00 per month or more depending on your area and this cost does not include equipment which is very expensive as well. A fractional T1 is often widely available as well but again the cost is so expensive often 200-300 per month or a full T1 which after local loop charges often runs $450-$600. SO when you say that most people can get broadband, they just fail to look, then you are mostly correct. As much as I hate to admit it (I can’t get Cable or DSL services either). But the fact is that the broadband is mostly available to many people but simply not worth the cost for the service, again often it is outrageously priced and not a viable solution. And though DSL and Cable services are synonymous with broadband services and often the only services considered people should realize there are other alternatives available. |
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PDXPLT
join:2003-12-04
Banks, OR
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said by mocycler :Truth is, most people can get BB if they want it. Hey, there are still tens of millions of people, at least, that can't get broadband. And the way things are going, if they live in the U.S.A., they won't get it for a long, long time. |
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Vamp
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MD
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said by SequimPC :10% sounds reasonable. I would believe as much as 15-20%. Not really ... The article means 53% of internet users are on a highspeed connection, it is not talking about percent of US or percent of population..
I think you guys misread... 53% sounds reasonable as an estimate and only an estimate.. 10% sounds way way to low.
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BBWEST
join:2004-09-05
Port Angeles, WA | reply to mocycler
What an oblivious azzhole. Yup I can get BB it is over $1400 per month.
How bout you go take a big bottle of sleeping pills followed by half a bottle of cheap booze and take a long permanent nap. |
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Rammer
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join:2001-03-06
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well its not that way in my part of earth |
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mocycler
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join:2001-01-22
Naperville, IL
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It kind of blows the argument that the municipal (read: socialist) BB proponents use when they claim broadband is so hard to find.
Truth is, most people can get BB if they want it.
The figure would likely be much, much higher if there were a way to count all the people who use their employer's T1's and zippy networks for personal use.
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SequimPC
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join:2004-02-11
Sequim, WA | reply to rtcpenguin
10% sounds reasonable. I would believe as much as 15-20%. |
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rtcpenguin
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Fairfax, VA
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said by ObdH : said by Rammer :i do not think that 53 percent of the us is on broadband thats total crap wasn't it just like 3x% a year ago? I'm fairly sure I read a front page article not too long ago saying the number was closer to 10%, at least in the US.
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mike1965
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join:2002-09-23
Marion, IL
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i guess the poll depends on who you ask....as many companies CLAIM to have highspeed internet which is dial up that caches pages.....thus it is still dial up LOL
availabilty is a problem also.....many cannot get it....others do not need HIGH bandwidth broadband but a lower tier would do.....how ever providers like mine which is mediacom has a lowwer tier which is better than dialup but not super fast....i think it is 128/64 which is still better than dial up....however they will not sell it except they will offer it to customers who decide they do not need 3000/256 .....so untill greedy companies like this offer lower tiers...it will not help any either
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Rammer
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join:2001-03-06
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lol yes
you cant get a true user count by asking
a 1000 people what they have dial up --or high speed
you can see on forums all over the net that even in and around the city limits of large citys ther are still many that have no options
heck in louisiana there are many many places with out a pots telephone lines
they use cell phones and what ever -- too keep in touch with the outside world |
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ObdH
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said by Rammer :i do not think that 53 percent of the us is on broadband thats total crap wasn't it just like 3x% a year ago?
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Rammer
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join:2001-03-06
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i do not think that 53 percent of the us is on broadband
thats total crap |
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Nerdtalker
Working Hard, Or Hardly Working?
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join:2003-02-18
Tucson, AZ
clubs: | Its good that Broadband is catching on now, especially being the majority now.
The only bad thing is that with this promiscuity, comes the added percentage of people who don't use a firewall, AV, or run windows update. |
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