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mocycler
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join:2001-01-22
Naperville, IL
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Re: Good to hear!

It kind of blows the argument that the municipal (read: socialist) BB proponents use when they claim broadband is so hard to find.

Truth is, most people can get BB if they want it.

The figure would likely be much, much higher if there were a way to count all the people who use their employer's T1's and zippy networks for personal use.

mocycler
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Rammer
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join:2001-03-06
clubs:
well its not that way in my part of earth

BBWEST

join:2004-09-05
Port Angeles, WA
reply to mocycler
What an oblivious azzhole. Yup I can get BB it is over $1400 per month.

How bout you go take a big bottle of sleeping pills followed by half a bottle of cheap booze and take a long permanent nap.

PDXPLT

join:2003-12-04
Banks, OR

reply to mocycler
said by mocycler See Profile:

Truth is, most people can get BB if they want it.
Hey, there are still tens of millions of people, at least, that can't get broadband. And the way things are going, if they live in the U.S.A., they won't get it for a long, long time.

Miah1

join:2004-10-15
Belton, TX

Getting broadband isn’t necessarily as difficult or as unavailable as people would like to believe – Now, before you guys turn on the incinerators give me a change to back this statement with data. You have to look at how broadband is defined... Anything over 128kb a sec is "technically" considered to be broadband. The problem is that ISDN line (128kb) and fractional or full T1's or other dedicated broadband solutions, which tend to be more widely available, are NOT cost effective for residential use and therefore often not considered. Considering that a typical ISDN might run around $39.00 for 64kb channel from the phone company and $39.00 for the other channel to get to the full 128kb, then you have to pay for an ISP that supports it usually $39.00 per channel again so the final cost could run the end user up to $150.00 per month or more depending on your area and this cost does not include equipment which is very expensive as well. A fractional T1 is often widely available as well but again the cost is so expensive often 200-300 per month or a full T1 which after local loop charges often runs $450-$600. SO when you say that most people can get broadband, they just fail to look, then you are mostly correct. As much as I hate to admit it (I can’t get Cable or DSL services either). But the fact is that the broadband is mostly available to many people but simply not worth the cost for the service, again often it is outrageously priced and not a viable solution. And though DSL and Cable services are synonymous with broadband services and often the only services considered people should realize there are other alternatives available.


LoneGreyWolf
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join:2002-09-09
Bath, NY
clubs:

While I understand your argument Miah, I am actually someone who doesn't have broadband available to them. Wait I guess I can't say that, but satellite isn't viable for how much internet usage my family uses. We would get Fap'ed to hell and back. Verizon in NY no longer offers ISDN to residential homes and they won't run a T1 to my home either. We have no wireless and no cable service for TV, only Satellite TV. My only hope will be FIOS, but I doubt I will see that as well. I call every month like clock work to ask if DSL is available and I know the answer every month. Nope! I ask about FIOS and I am told that Verizon wants everyone to have FIOS, but I need to be patient. The funny thing is everyone I talk to up here says Verizon has said the same thing about DSL as well.

Ignore teh Neptune City, NJ as my location. I have since moved and now live in rural NYS.


entropy1
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join:2002-09-25
reply to BBWEST
Why don't you relax and act like an adult instead of an oblivious teen.
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