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bobince
join:2002-04-19
DE
| Re: Ebates Moe Money Maker Mele20, there are many possible definitions of spyware. eBates does not match mine, because it I haven't seen it leak trackable information.
However, it does definitely match 'parasite', or 'unsolicited commercial software'. *You* may have installed it deliberately, but there are millions that *didn't*, of which Conkshell is just the latest.
The TopMoxie (eBates) software is installed not just by warning-free bundles with other applications, but also by exploitation of IE security holes. See also »www.benedelman.org/news/121504-1.html .
This is not acceptable by anyone's standards. | |
|  Mele20
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join:2001-06-05
Hilo, HI
| Re: Ebates Moe Money Maker This is still the fault of the user. If the user had Firefox this wouldn't happen. It is NOT spyware. You can decline the download. You do have to be able to read though in order to decline it. Most everything people call spyware is gotten because they use IE. It is the users fault. DON'T USE IE! It is that simple.
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| | bobince
join:2002-04-19
DE
| Re: Ebates Moe Money Maker I'm as much of a fan of Firefox as the next guy, but this reasoning is completely absurd, and shared only by CoolWebSearch themselves [some of whose exploits install eBates].
Their excuse on their 'help pages' is invariably "it's not my fault if Microsoft leaves holes in their browsers", which is about as convincing as "it's not my fault I robbed your house, your back door lock can be picked".
Exploitation of browser security holes is ILLEGAL. eBates are indirectly paying their affiliates for committing illegal acts. You CANNOT 'decline' a download that happens automatically due to security holes. Plus of course there is software that bundles TopMoxie without any notice whatsoever, let alone the opportunity to 'decline' it.
Non-IE browsers are not magically immune to security holes. CoolWebSearch have also used a Sun Java VM flaw in the past, which would happily work on Firefox, for example. Would the user be at fault then? | |
| | Hickerx2
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join:2001-03-04
Franklinville, NY
| said by Mele20  :This is still the fault of the user. If the user had Firefox this wouldn't happen. LMAO:D
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markwp2001
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join:2002-05-25
Long Beach, MS
| Re: Ebates Moe Money Maker said by Hickerx2 : said by Mele20 :This is still the fault of the user. If the user had Firefox this wouldn't happen. LMAO:D Too much Hawaiian kind bud, perhaps? 
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