Birds
join:2004-10-23
| reply to ardenj
Re: How to use my Linksys wireless router with my
This is easy to do, but there are two ways to do it.
1) Having one firewall, the Versalink router.
2) Having two firewalls, both the Versalink and the Linksys router.
Since you want to use the Linksys as the wireless access point, it is most secure (and creates fewer problems) to turn off the wirless networking in the Versalink by going to Configuration --> Wireless --> Wireless Operation, and selecting "Disable". Be sure to click "Save" at the bottom of the page.
METHOD 1:
With this method you are using the Versalink as a DSL modem and firewall, and the Linksys as a wireless AP. The Linksys router does not do any DSL account authenticating. All your DSL authentication is handled by the Versalink.
On the Versalink you want to enable "Private LAN" in Configuration --> Advanced LAN --> Private LAN. Using static IP addresses makes things a bit easier.
Assign your Versalink router an IP address that is in the same class as your Linksys router. Meaning if assigned your Linksys router has an IP address of 192.168.50.1, then you give the Versalink router the IP address of 192.168.5.2. Use the subnet mask of 255.255.255.0
Now both the Versalink and Linksys routers are on the same network and can see and communicate with each other.
Plug the Linksys router into the Versalink router with an ethernet cable by using one of the four ethernet ports on both routers. You do not want to use the Linksys router's WAN port!
Since you are not using the WAN port on the Linksys router, the router will not use any of the information contained in the the "Internet Setup" section at the top of the "Basic Configuration" page (meaning PPOE information, etc.).
On your PC's set your wireless network cards to the SSID and passphrase of the Linksys router.
If you are using static IP addresses on your PC's then, make sure the Gateway address listed in the network card's IP address config. page is the local address for the Versalink router.
METHOD 2:
Again the Versalink router is handling all the DSL account authentication.
With this setup you are going to use the Linksys' WAN port. This is what gives you two firewalls in-line with each other. So here you will need to set a static IP address in the Linksys router's "Internet Settings" section on the "Basic Configuration" page - discussed below.
For this configuration you are putting each router on it's own local network, so you will have each router use a different number in the third octet of it's local IP address (not the Internet IP address assigned to the WAN port). So...
For your local LAN setup (not the internet WAN port), make sure you are using static IP addresses on the Versalink router and not DHCP. This makes it easier to administer both routers.
Turn off the local DHCP on the Versalnik by going to Configuration --> Advanced LAN --> Private LAN, and uncheck DHCP.
Say the local IP address of your Linksys router is 192.168.50.1. Give your Versalink a local address with a different third octet: 192.168.10.1. You assign the local address on the Versalink under Configuration --> Advanced LAN --> Private LAN settings.
Now the routers are on different local networks.
At this point you have to provide a way for the Linksys and Versalink routers to communicate. You do this by putting the Linksys' WAN port (which is different than the four ethernet ports on the Linksys) on the same network as the Versalink router. This is done with the "Internet Settings" section at the top of the main "Basic Configuration" page. This is the top section on the main basic configuration page. The section above the section entitled "Network Setup" on that main page.
"Internet Settings" controls the WAN port.
"Network Setup" controls the ethernet ports and is the local setup for the in house portion of router: DHCP to your PCs, etc.
Go to the Linksys router's main configuration page.
Under "Internet Settings" or "Internet Connection Type" select "Static IP".
A series of boxes should now appear allowing you to type in an IP address, subnet mask, gateway, and static DNS addresses.
The IP address here will use the same first three octets used in your Vesalink router. In our example that was 192.168.10.XXX, because Versalink's IP address is 192.168.10.1.
So in the Linksys router you type 192.168.10.2. This assigns the Linksys' WAN port the IP address of 192.168.10.2 and puts the WAN port on the same network as the Versalink router.
Set the Subnet mask to 255.255.255.0
For our example the Linksys' gateway address would be set to 192.168.2.1 (the Versalink router), because your DSL connection is through the Versalink.
Leave the DNS settings empty.
Now the routers can talk to each other, and by using the Linksys WAN port, all the information passed to the Linksys will pass through the Linksys' firewall.
Now plug an ethernet cable into the Linksys' WAN port, and plug the other end into one of the Versalink's four ethernet ports.
If you use static IP addresses on your PC's, make sure you set the Gateway address to the same address you used for the static IP address for the Linksys WAN port. In our example that was 192.168.20.2.
You should now have a double firewalled setup and have the Linksys router handling all wireless traffic.
I hope this helps and makes sense,
Birds |
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ardenj
| Birds, thanks for the help so far. I decided to go with method 1. Private Lan and DHCP are enabled on my Versalink, and I set the IP address to 192.168.1.9 and the subnet mask was left at 255.255.255.0. I also turned off wireless operation on the Versalink. I connected the Versalink and the Linksys through the first ethernet ports on both routers (I did not use the WAN port).
I have the PC's with the wireless cards setup with the Linksys' SSID and passphrase. My PC connected directly to the versalink (2nd ethernet port) works fine, and my other PC's see and connect to the Linksys AP with full signal strength. However, when I try to open Internet Explorer (on the PC's connected wirelessly), I can't open any websites. I get the Page not displayed error. When I go into the command prompt and type Ipconfig /release, it releases the IP, but when I try to renew, it states it can not find the DHCP server and operation timed out. Do you know what I'm doing wrong? I appreciate your help. Thanks |
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Birds
join:2004-10-23
| Ardenj,
So...
PCs are connecting to the Linksys by wireless, and then are supposed to get DHCP addresses from the Versalink?
If so then it sounds like a routing issue. I would try a static IP address on one PC (using the Linksys router's local address as the gateway address), and see if that clears up the problem.
Also, double check that all the IP addresses (both routers, and the DHCP pool) are using the same first three octets in their IP addresses. According to what you shared about the Versalink that should be 192.168.1.XXX.
Versalink: 192.168.1.9
Linksys: 192.168.1.XXX
DHCP pool: 192.168.1.XXX
PC static IP: 192.168.1.XXX
Try surfing the web.
If you can't surf, then ping out from the PC: ping PC, Ping Linksys, Ping Versalink. You should be able to ping all three if everything is working correctly.
If you can ping everything but can't surf the web, then see if you can access the configuration screens of the routers. If you can do this then your local network is working. |
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Birds
join:2004-10-23
| reply to ardenj
To avoid any confusion, you want to enable the static IP on one of the wireless machines.
You could try enabling DHCP on the Linksys router, if you have not done that, using a different address pool than what is being used for the Versalink (but still keeping those first three octets the same). |
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rtcy
FACTS only please
Premium
join:1999-10-16
Beverly Hills, CA | reply to Birds
Birds, EXCELLENT how-to.
I recomend the MOD's make this how-to a STICKY, for all users here. my nickel's worth  |
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Gargoyle
Premium,MVM,ExMod 2004-07
join:2000-12-29
Planet X
clubs: | I will sticky this thread for a while. How about someone submitting this information to the forum FAQ?
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Gargoyle
Premium,MVM,ExMod 2004-07
join:2000-12-29
Planet X
clubs:
| Thanks to Birds  we now have a FAQ entry »/faq/11836
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Biggerdan
join:2005-08-27
0208UK | reply to Birds
this way of connecting option 2 can u still share files and printers in my network places |
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Biggerdan
join:2005-08-27
0208UK |  reply to Birds
can u still share files and printers in my nework places with option 2 |
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Yoshimitzup
@verizon.net | reply to Birds
We want to limit the people who try to join our wireless connection, Can you tell us all the steps involved to do such a thing?
send message to mercedesbode@yahoo.com, |
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quepos
join:2006-09-06
Wareham, MA | reply to Birds
if someone has a linkys card in there laptop can they go on line if a place has a Westell 327W router? or do they need a diffrent card? dumb i know |
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nwrickert
sand groper
Premium,MVM
join:2004-09-04
Geneva, IL | This should work. Both the 327w and the linksys card are conforming to the same open standards. |
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proxybox
join:2007-03-31
Los Angeles, CA
| reply to Birds
Re: IMPORTANT - Enter Modem MAC address in Linksys
Hello,
I was trying to set my Westell D90-327W15-06 to bridge mode and could not get the Linksys Router (WRT54G) to dial out. I tried every post here and I ran into a wall. I talked to two Verizon techs and the second one was a genius. It turns out that Verizon requires the modems MAC address to vaildate the connection.
Therefore, in order to use their Automatic Configuration - DHCP connection, the Westell's MAC address (from the sticker on its bottom) needs to be entered into the Linksys configuration page under MAC address clone. Now the Verizon network 'sees' the modem's MAC through the Linksys router. Now everything works great!!!!
Bottom Line: Don't forget to put in the MAC address. |
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