gracie
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Re: auto updates and limited user
said by Libra  : I have XP Home and I have found if you want something to "take" it has to be done in the Admin account. I have to update BOClean, IE SpyAds, SpywareBlaster in the Admin Account before the settings will update in the limited user account. thanx guys for the thoughts. i pretty much figured that avs, ats, anti-spywares, etc. are best updated from admin. and instructed him to do so. my confusion was specifically about automatic updates for windows update. ms is pushing HARD for people to turn on automatic updates, at the same time as most security articles are finally encouraging people to run as user and limit their admin exposure. so i was wondering if they'd made a provision for automatic updates from windows update to be installable even if the user happens to be in their user account. if not (and i suspect it is not), their push to have users turn on auto updates is ridiculous.
seems better to turn off auto updates and just run windows update from admin once a week along with updating the other security/privacy-related programs.
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I've continued to see first-hand and hear of Automatic Updates screwing up people's computers. Somewhat reluctantly, I suggest that you leave it off, as long as the user is already behind either a router or personal firewall software, and as long as competent human help is within reasonable reach (e.g., one week's time).
Just as in the past, it's best to deploy patches and updates when, and ONLY when, the user or the administrator deems it appropriate.
An unpatched vulnerability is slightly less impactful than a machine that won't even boot to Safe Mode because an "automatic" MS update flummoxed the whole frobdingnag.
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spooler0
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said by gracie : "i pretty much figured that avs, ats, anti-spywares, etc. are best updated from admin."seems better to turn off auto updates and just run windows update from admin once a week along with updating the other security/privacy-related programs. Okay, now if it is installed and updated with all the vs, ts, adware and spyware scanners in the admin account, where is the user to run it from?
If run from the admin account, will that check all the limited accounts in every case? And if not, will all of those programs run properly from the limited account?
End question: If it needs to be installed and updated in the admin, but run in both admin and limited, will the user do so without getting confused? |
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| said by spooler0 :Okay, now if it is installed and updated with all the vs, ts, adware and spyware scanners in the admin account, where is the user to run it from? If run from the admin account, will that check all the limited accounts in every case? And if not, will all of those programs run properly from the limited account? End question: If it needs to be installed and updated in the admin, but run in both admin and limited, will the user do so without getting confused? Since we're only talking about Automatic Updates for Windows, the answers are simply:
1. The user DOESN'T, except during that single weekly log-in as administrator.
2. Nothing is "checked". The updates are installed, and they will apply to all users.
3. The updates do not need to be re-run for each user. (Again, we're talking about Automatic Updates for Windows, NOT antispyware apps.)
4. The user won't get confused because once the Windows updates are applied they will be in effect for all users.
Having said all this, it won't suprise me at all to find that it's partially wrong, and that some functions must be re-established for each user (much as is the case with MS Office).
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trooper1
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|  Does AU download the critical updates in non-admin
I am a little confused by this.
Will AU download the needed updates when a user is online in non-admin mode?
I understand that the updates may need admin privileges to be actually installed. But, does the AU service atleast download the needed updates in non-admin mode?
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