imrf
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Utica, MI
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| reply to sago
Re: Comcast Bandwidth Suspension
It's also their word versus Comcast's. I believe that many of the posts here about being terminated have information left out such because the hate Comcast. If Comcast tells someone they downloaded 300 gigs and that's too much and to cut in half, there is your number. Many people just say they downloaded to much and Comcast said that they will loose service if the don't slow down. Again, Comcast doesn't have to tell anyone how much they can download at a max, just cut it by the amount they tell you on the phone. It's plain and simple.
Also, how is this not in Comcast's best long-term interests? The majority of the people out there have no other option for fast service, so they loose some people, it's not hurting Comcast at all look at how many new HSD customers were installed last quarter. Even if/when FIOS is available to all of Verizon customers, do you really think that Verizon will have an all you can eat buffet with their service, hell no. They will do the same thing that Comcast is doing, along with the restrictive TOS. |
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ajax25
join:2003-12-10
Colonia, NJ
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said by b1gdr3  :Stop bellyaching. Michael Powell isn't going to do anything about this. Comcast makes the rules. There's nothing illegal being done. If you do not like it, take your business elsewhere. Internet service is not a freaking utility, so stop treating it like one. All it does is make you folks sound like whiny, pathetic kids that aren't getting their way. A LARGE majority of Comcast users are happy with their service, so please do not claim to speak for all of us. Stop bellyaching about my bellyaching.
When did I claim to speak for anyone besides myself? |
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gr33dy
join:2002-05-31
Tempe, AZ | imrf, is the purpose of the suspension/notice a result of ppl complaining that others are affecting their service? Sounds to me like they are just "cleaning up" (so to speak), just for the sake of doing it. |
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imrf
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join:2002-06-06
Utica, MI
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| said by gr33dy :imrf, is the purpose of the suspension/notice a result of ppl complaining that others are affecting their service? Probably. But Comcast doesn't have to tell the offender that others are complaining.
Sounds to me like they are just "cleaning up" (so to speak), just for the sake of doing it. They could be doing that too. But it's their network and they will manage it how they feel is necessary no matter what a small handful of people think. |
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helllknow
@charterwv.net | reply to b1gdr3
u cant abuse it dude if u dont know what the meanin of abusing is abusing ??????????? yeah if u uncap your modem and are going over your limit other than that there shouldnt be any such thing they want the $$$$ for the sevise but dont want it used |
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ComcastJoe
join:2004-02-09
| reply to b1gdr3
said by b1gdr3 :Stop bellyaching. Michael Powell isn't going to do anything about this. Comcast makes the rules. There's nothing illegal being done. If you do not like it, take your business elsewhere. Internet service is not a freaking utility, so stop treating it like one. All it does is make you folks sound like whiny, pathetic kids that aren't getting their way. A LARGE majority of Comcast users are happy with their service, so please do not claim to speak for all of us. If you are so happy then why are all your posts on this forum so miserable and everyone of them aimed at other Comcast users? |
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ComcastJoe
join:2004-02-09
| reply to Mrhowes
said by Mrhowes :I am getting sick and tired otherwise shut up. I am "sick and tired" of reading the same abusive posts by the same abusive people in this forum who only attack other Comcast users, yet their posts are never given the boot. You would think that a signature like "I wasn't born with enough middle fingers" would in itself be enough to get someone the boot.
I on the other hand try to engage in discussion with others here, make logical arguments only to then return and find my posts removed without explanation and the moderators then honey pot my posts for approval, and warn me not to challenge their authority while still refusing to explain their actions.
In a country which teaches their young that they live in a "democracy" I find this totally unacceptable. It would be more appropriate in Iran. |
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ComcastJoe
join:2004-02-09
| reply to sago
said by sago :with something that has not been clearly defined. That is not good enough. They advertise an "unlimited" connection. They need to justify any limits they want to enforce.
Anything else is fraud. |
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imrf
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join:2002-06-06
Utica, MI
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| said by ComcastJoe :They advertise an "unlimited" connection. Where? It's not listed on their website as being unlimited for almost a year now.
They need to justify any limits they want to enforce.
Anything else is fraud. No they don't. Their TOS clearly states that they have every right to disconnect your service if you abuse their network. The people that get the letters are abusers. Comcast does not have to post any magical number as you are not required to have their service if you don't like their terms.
Also note, from the FAQ about you complaints about your posts being moderated and we living in a Democratic society.
said by BBR FAQ:
This is not a democracy - it is at best a benevolent dictatorship. Your posts may be edited for content, moved or deleted without notification or your permission. If you feel this is a violation of your right to free speech, please re-read the First Amendment of the Constitution. You have been granted no right to say whatever you want here by our country's founding fathers (or mothers).
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china crisis
join:2003-05-28
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said by ComcastJoe : said by sago :with something that has not been clearly defined. That is not good enough. They advertise an "unlimited" connection. They need to justify any limits they want to enforce. Anything else is fraud. Not only doesn't he understand the TOS even though he agreed to it, now he's a lawyer too. |
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sago
join:2001-12-19
1 edit | reply to imrf
said by imrf :just cut it by the amount they tell you on the phone. It's plain and simple. My point exactly. And you would be absolutely correct, I mean, I would TOTALLY agree with every word you have said here IF... IF Comcast told you that. They don't. They don't tell you anything about any kinds of numbers or what their expectations of you are. That's the problem. Which leads me to...
said by imrf :Also, how is this not in Comcast's best long-term interests? Because any company that has gone out of their way to provide the best customer service that they can to their customers (even if they don't HAVE to because they are so powerful and a monopoly) - any company that has gone out of their way to keep their customers, to go above and beyond what is "required" of them, to try to provide a higher quality of customer service, in perfect hindsight, would do so again. You don't go out of your way to provide excellent customer service because you HAVE to; you do it because you know that it's the right thing to do. You can't make laws about this kind of thing; you can't write TOS that state these kinds of things - just like you can't write laws that put people in jail for not giving Christmas gifts - but there is a joy, a deep satisfaction, a quality of life that comes from doing those good things to other people that we aren't necessarily required to do; and anyone who has done these things will, in hindsight, do them again. I know that sounds wishy washy, but it's really the key to success.
Another reason it's not in the best long term interests is because it creates an image of unpredicatability. They might be trying to use this to their advantage to try to discourage people who like to use lots of bandwidth from signing up with them, in other words - trying to "hint" that heavy users should get DSL, for instance, but being percieved as "unpredictable" has side-effects - in other words, it's not a good idea. I'm not saying that they need to keep people who are using "too much" - on the contrary, cutting people off that aren't "worth it" is probably beneficial to Comcast, but there really isn't any compelling reason to do it in an unpredictable way. They lose more from being unpredictable and creating "bad vibes" than they would if they were to ask people to refrain from excessive downloading in a clear, predictable way. Either way, the result is the same. Either follow the rules, or you get cut. |
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imrf
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| said by sago : My point exactly. And you would be absolutely correct, I mean, I would TOTALLY agree with every word you have said here IF... IF Comcast told you that. They don't. They don't tell you anything about any kinds of numbers or what their expectations of you are. That's the problem. huh? Most of the people that have received the abuse call were told to cut their downloading in half. They were also told how much they downloaded. How hard is that to understand.
Again, Comcast isn't a monopoly, you have options you just choose not to use them because of some lame excuse or another. |
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WiFiSpy
Rtfm
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join:2004-03-20
Everett, WA
| said by imrf : said by sago :Again, Comcast isn't a monopoly, you have options you just choose not to use them because of some lame excuse or another. Comcast is a gov. regulated Monopoly.... --
www.WiFi-Spy.org |
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imrf
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| said by WiFiSpy :Comcast is a gov. regulated Monopoly.... No they aren't. The government does not control what Comcast does, nor does the government stifle competition form building a network anywhere since exclusive franchise agreements are illegal. Learn about over-builders and then you will see why there is usually only one cable company in any given area. Some places have two cable companies but not many because of the extreme cost in building the networks. |
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eric87m
join:2003-12-07
Princeton, NJ | Dang, some of you guys are crazy. I thought I downloaded a lot at 20 gigs a month. |
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RealityView
join:2005-01-21
Orange, CA
| reply to Mazda_6
You might try some bandwidth compression. There is an Internet Accelerator that compresses bandwidth for Broadband..usally gets 2X to 5X for Broadband, and 10X to 20X for dial-up. You can check it out at www.10Xspeed.com . If it gives you a 50% reduction or more in data usage, then that should get you further down the road with Comcast or whoever. Plus you'll see your perceived speeds go up closer to 5000Kbps. |
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53059959
Temp banned from BBR more then anyone
join:2002-10-02
PwnZone | reply to Mazda_6
comcasts invisible caps are ghey. I hope verizon rips em a new @sshole with their fios |
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toddbs98
join:2000-07-08
North Little Rock, AR
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said by imrf : said by WiFiSpy :Comcast is a gov. regulated Monopoly.... No they aren't. The government does not control what Comcast does, nor does the government stifle competition form building a network anywhere since exclusive franchise agreements are illegal. Learn about over-builders and then you will see why there is usually only one cable company in any given area. Some places have two cable companies but not many because of the extreme cost in building the networks. Thank you Mister Comcast but Comcast does have an exclusive franchise here. It states that no other cable company can over-build or compete with Comcast in our city for the next 15 years.
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anomyous
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COMCRAP....
comcrap and most other cable ISP have those suck invisible caps. I hate the way on how comcrap/cable is treating their customers like "bandwidth theft on web hosting". Look, if their a$$ connection can't support 3Mbps+ without caps, then reduce it down to 1.5M-. So they can remove those caps and stop treating their customers like "bandwidth theft". The customers pay $45+ for the connection to the Internet, they should have the right to use the connection at anytime. If ISP want to cap, they must put it on their ads or tell the customers what the cap is!! These invisible caps from comcrap/cable are dumbass suck. comcrap/cable with caps are really designed for newbies who just do browse/email. |
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imrf
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join:2002-06-06
Utica, MI
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| reply to toddbs98
Re: Comcast Bandwidth Suspension
As it has been stated here many times before. As per the federal government, no city has the authority of providing exclusive franchise agreements to cable and telco companies. You think that they do because no company has built in your are, but the reality that you can't see is that the ROI takes too long for another cable provider to come into your area and build a network. The only legal exclusive agreement are with apartment complexes, condos, and mobile home parks, as those are private property.
BTW, what does that "Mister Comcast" comment mean? Are you pathetically trying to stoop that low to think that because I defend Comcast that I am automatically am an employee. Grow up. That just proves that you hate Comcast and you have no real idea what you are talking about. |
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