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Good; I'd like to try on my 64 bit Athlon laptop

When it is out and I've had a chance to look at reviews on the system, I'd like to give it a try on my 64 bit Athlon laptop.

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Re: Good; I'd like to try on my 64 bit Athlon lapt

64-bit viruses to follow.
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Re: Good; I'd like to try on my 64 bit Athlon lapt

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64-bit viruses to follow.
Its not that hard to do.... A simple recompile should be all it takes in most instances.
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Re: Good; I'd like to try on my 64 bit Athlon lapt

Gezzzz... I'd be happy if it the 32 bit worked correctly.. no BSOD's, no ugly messages, but what are my chances?

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Re: Good; I'd like to try on my 64 bit Athlon lapt

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Gezzzz... I'd be happy if it the 32 bit worked correctly.. no BSOD's, no ugly messages, but what are my chances?
What version of Windows do you run? I haven't seen a BSOD in about 7 years.
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Re: Good; I'd like to try on my 64 bit Athlon lapt

yea really bsod stopped after we moved away from 98 and me:D 2k and xp are the way to go and 2k3

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said by TKJunkMail See Profile:

What version of Windows do you run? I haven't seen a BSOD in about 7 years.
All the BSOD's that I have seen on XP in the last seven years were due to bad hardware. Bad memory, geriatric HDD. Can't blame Uncle Bill for that.

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Re: Good; I'd like to try on my 64 bit Athlon laptop

I installed the beta on my a64 workstation and it appears to run well. I haven't had a chance to test it much since ther isn't a whole lot of support for it just yet (driverwise anyway). ATI does have drivers for it but when I ran 3DMark it looked like complete garbage. It may be a while before it reaches a mature state.
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Re: Good; I'd like to try on my 64 bit Athlon lapt

3DMark is a 32bit program isnt it? If you run a 32bit program in a 64bit environment, it is going to be crap because a 32bit environment has to be emulated. That whole WOW Windows on Windows thing. Emulators take up a lot of resources and are generally pretty slow...
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Re: Good; I'd like to try on my 64 bit Athlon lapt

Why does it have to be emulated? AMD64 and EM64T (Intel's version of AMD64 extensions) both support 32-bit code natively. Also, Microsoft has developed the 64-bit version of Windows so it will also run 32-bit software (without emulation, to my understanding). MS removed all legacy 16-bit support but who cares?

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Re: Good; I'd like to try on my 64 bit Athlon lapt

Using 32-bit apps isn't as transparent as they advertise - which is why the latest reviews on x64 Windows RC1 indicates there are small number of compatibility problems with existing apps. 32- and 64-bit code can't be used interchangeably. 32-bit apps need 32-bit DLL's and vice versa. For 32-bit apps, the OS uses the WoW64 compatibility mode which results in a (very?) small performance penalty.
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Back when Windows 95 was introduced, and there was a lot of 16-bit Windows 3.1 code. In order to allow the 16-bit to call 32-bit code (and vice-versa), Windows used a technique called "thunking". This was part fo a facility knowns as WOW (Windows on Windows). So the 32/64-bit issues will probably be dealt with the same way.

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Re: Good; I'd like to try on my 64 bit Athlon lapt

said by salahx See Profile:

Back when Windows 95 was introduced, and there was a lot of 16-bit Windows 3.1 code. In order to allow the 16-bit to call 32-bit code (and vice-versa), Windows used a technique called "thunking". This was part fo a facility knowns as WOW (Windows on Windows). So the 32/64-bit issues will probably be dealt with the same way.
That's exactly how 32/64-bit will be dealt with in Win64. While there is a penalty from the thunking, it is extremely low, something like less than 1% in most situations. Still, my A64 3200+ flies with 32-bit XP, I can't wait to try the RTM of XP64 with some real driver support. As it stands now, I can't boot off RAID with RC1.
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And I'll wait for some apps that support 64 bit processing

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And I'll wait for some apps that support 64 bit processing
Same.

I'll switch when intel releases their new 64 bit cores.
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And I'll wait for some apps that support 64 bit processing
Same.

I'll switch when intel releases their new 64 bit cores.
A lot of the higher end apps already are supporting the 64 bit arch. Just they are a real b*tch to find a place to get them.

I run xp-64 no issues at all with all my software. Biggest issue i have is the dep on the processor I forgot to turn it off for an app that i spent 2 weeks trying to patch.
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If you've the Compaq R3000 series laptop, then you may have problems with drivers. Someone I know tried to put on Win64 Beta and some of the component manufacturers weren't sure they were going to even bother with 64 bit drivers.

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Mandrake 64bit, and Gentoo 64bit run great on Athlon64 CPU, for over a year now...
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