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We know human rights and religious tolerance???
Ask any freedom loving, tax paying, gay American.
A group totally being denied religious freedom.
It's a lot better here than in like say Saudi Arabia, Where being Gay will get Your head chopped off. And I said Religious Tolerance, Gays are treated badly cause of bigotry, I'm not Gay at all and cause I'm not married and have no kids some when I was Younger thought I was, I like women very much. But what women would want a nearly 400lb. guy with arthritis, joint problems, anxiety and concentration problems? Heck We know what the NAZI Party did to Jews, Gays and the Disabled in WWII, They were all either Gassed or burned alive in buildings or shot....

Thaler
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We know human rights and religious tolerance???
Ask any freedom loving, tax paying, gay American.
A group totally being denied religious freedom.
I thought we were just denying them tax breaks, adoption in certain states, and promoting bible-thumping persecution? Religion, however, isn't something that's currently being denied. Sure, there are certain sects of religion that would sooner pin you to the cross than let you worship, but there are more accepting chapters in most any popular religion today.

I personally feel like anyone should be allowed into any religious observation who really wants to be there, but of course my own personal opinion means didly squat when the person in charge wants to plaster "NO QUEERS" to their chapel/temple/kiosk/etc.

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You can't really say the internet was "created," it was discovered. It was always there.
huh?
And lo, on the 8th day, God said, "I need pr0n and warez," and he smote his keyboard thusly...and the internet was created, and it was good.
And who is the patron saint of the internet? Or did Bill Gates "donate" for that right?


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You are 100% correct, without our troops again making the sacrifice to go and get all the other aid flowing many more people would be dying because of the disaster. You didn't see any other countries step up and actually put the men and women on the ground who could get the ball rolling. Again, we save the day.
We weren't the only country to contributed people, equipment, and money.

Even with our recently updated total of $650 (military+dollars), we were third. If we compare our per capita contribution to that of other countries, I doubt we'd come out that high. I'm not trying to diminish our contribution, but we weren't the most generous.

I certainly wouldn't advocate that other countries "cut us off", but like aSic See Profile, it wouldn't surprise me.


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You can't really say the internet was "created," it was discovered. It was always there.
huh?
And lo, on the 8th day, God said, "I need pr0n and warez," and he smote his keyboard thusly...and the internet was created, and it was good.
ROTFL
Oh thats good:D


footballdude
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Blowing the s*** outta them first-hand (target and civilian alike, what's the diff?) seems to be just as effective as negotiations.
It's completely impossible to negotiate with someone who's goal is to kill you and create a world Islamic government. Look at how all of the negotiations with Arafat went. Nothing but lip service while the bombs just kept coming. There's only two choices now, sit back and wait for the next nutjob to kill ten thousand people at a ball game or try to wipe out the conditions that turned them into nutjobs in the first place. At least now the freaks are fighting our soldiers instead of taking potshots at our citizens.

noone1

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Even with our recently updated total of $650 (military+dollars), we were third. If we compare our per capita contribution to that of other countries, I doubt we'd come out that high. I'm not trying to diminish our contribution, but we weren't the most generous.
How is it your are not diminishing our contributions? The whole per capita misinformation typical of the wealth redistributionists is completely about trying to -minimize- what our government and people have given in an attempt to say "They gave more then you."
You said prior...
said by JTRockville See Profile:

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Kinda dwarfs the US contribution, eh?

My guess is, "the rest of the world" would get along just fine without the US.
Again, you are trying to diminish our contributions by saying "the rest of the world would get along fine without the US." The $550 to $650 mill from the US gov and people does -not- include the millitary assistance of over 12,000 personnel, 21 ships, and multitude of cago planes and helicopters. Also, 20% or so of the cost the UN is facing with the effort is paid for by our country.

Also, lets add some perspective here. Simple fact, more dollars flow out of the US for outside aid, education, housing, food, etc to outside countries (beyond disaster help) then the top 10 nations combine.

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the ISP had a hosting contract with this website, by closing the site that didnt violate their TOS they are in breach of contract. the US government cant end private contracts far as im concerned in the ISP should have told the feds to go F themselves and come back with a court order.
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Even with our recently updated total of $650 (military+dollars), we were third. If we compare our per capita contribution to that of other countries, I doubt we'd come out that high. I'm not trying to diminish our contribution, but we weren't the most generous.
How is it your are not diminishing our contributions? The whole per capita misinformation typical of the wealth redistributionists is completely about trying to -minimize- what our government and people have given in an attempt to say "They gave more then you."
Other countries did give more than us! So if we'd given nothing, the rest of the would would have compensated. Sure, we gave a lot. But we need to keep our generosity in perspective.

Just a hunch, but I don't think the rest of the world believes they're as indebted to us, as we'd like to think. Which is why I wouldn't be surprised if the rest of the world "cut us off".

noone1

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Other countries did give more than us! So if we'd given nothing, the rest of the would would have compensated. Sure, we gave a lot. But we need to keep our generosity in perspective.

Just a hunch, but I don't think the rest of the world believes they're as indebted to us, as we'd like to think. Which is why I wouldn't be surprised if the rest of the world "cut us off".
1. In the first critical two weeks, it was the US military that shouldered the burden. Let me get this through to you, no other country in the world has the capacity to do what we did in the first two weeks. It required a sinlge, unified force that was already cohesive, not a small force from multiple countries with different training, languages, tactics, command chains, radio frequences, etc. There is/are no country(ies) that could have compensated.
2. I never said we were the most generous for this one event, I said we are, by the far, most generous overall.
3. The rest of the world has cut us off, they are either indifferent or like leaches to us.
"Nations do not have friends, they have interests." DeGaulle
There is nothing wrong with point three. You can please some of the people, some of the time, but you cant please all of the people, all of the time.
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