nicolecco
join:2007-11-25 | reply to vincentfox
Re: Before you post 'how to share WiFi to neighbor?'
good idea |
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mudtoe
join:2005-10-09
Cleveland, OH
1 edit | reply to justscott5
Re: Before you post 'how to share WiFi to neighbor
You are correct in your last statement. If you are going to have the connection from the buffalo unit connected into the WAN port of your linksys router, you must have the router and all the devices in your local network on a different subnet than the upstream connection. Changing the router's address to 192.168.100.1 will work fine, just be sure to verify that the DHCP pool addresses that it hands out in your local network are in the 192.168.100.x range.
Your other choice would be to use your linksys router as a switch instead of a router. If you do this you will get an IP address from the router connected to the upstream connection in the 192.168.1.x range, and you will be on the same network subnet as all the other devices that are connected to the network served by the wireless access point. To do this you have to disable DHCP on your linksys router, and then connect the buffalo unit into one of the LAN ports on the router, along with your other stuff. Also, to make this happen you will likely have to configure the linksys router first, using manually assigned IP addresses, and then after you connect things up you won't be able to talk to the router anymore. The reason for this is that the router's internal IP address shouldn't be set to the same subnet as the upstream network, as a duplication could occur; so that means you have to set it to something other than 192.168.1.x, in which case you won't be able to talk to it anymore after your pc gets an address in that range from the upstream network.
It's simpler to do it the first way as long as you aren't going to need to run a server, or use things like UPnP, plus it provides some protection and separation between your PCs and the upstream network's PCs. |
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justscott5
join:2005-01-05
Terre Haute, IN
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I hope I can get a response from such and old thread! I'm a real noob at this stuff, so pardon the dumb questions.
I'm trying to use a signal coming into my house and run my network off of it. I have an old Linksys BEFW11S4 wireless router connected to my PC. I put a Buffalo WHR-G54S in my window and flicked the switch to put it in Bridge mode.
I'm running CAT5 cable from LAN port 1 in the Buffalo to the WAN (labeled "internet") port on my Linksys. I don't know if I have my terms correct here, but my Linksys and and the signal coming into my house both have an IP address of 192.168.1.1. So, with a USB wireless adapter connected, I have to change my PC's IP address to something like 192.168.0.1 in order to connect to the internet. If I change my PC's IP address to something like 192.168.1.105, I can connect to my Linksys router.
So, what should I do at this point?
Do I need to change my Linksys router's IP address to something like 192.168.100.1 as in vincentfox's example? And then let the Linksys router assign my PC an IP address? Or am I just way off here? |
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funchords
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Re: Before you post 'how to share WiFi to neighbor?'
Sandcruiser,
You are VERY, VERY close to getting this to work.
said by sandcruiser  :I'd like to use the wap54g to catch the signal (in AP client mode), then pass it through to the wrt via the WAN port.... Use one of the WRT55G's LAN ports instead of the WAN port. On the WRT54G, select a wireless channel that is +/- 5 channels from the one used by the neighbor's D-Link.
It'll work great!
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sandcruiser
join:2006-03-16
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I'm so glad I found this thread, it has gotten me most of the way to finishing up my network...
Here's what I've got to work with
wrt54g v2 running linksys firmware 2.06
wap54g v2 running linksys firmware 4.20.7
2 wireless laptops
1 netdisk (semi-autonomous ethernet connected storage)
1 wifi signal from my neighbor, with WEP, and his permission (he shares my office signal, I share his home signal, works great) his router is a d-link model, not sure which one.
I can get his signal on my laptop or my wife's laptop, no problem. As long as we are in the upstairs bedroom or patio.
I can get the wrt54g to catch the signal and pass it through to the laptops via ethernet, but then I'm still stuck in the same room. But that does allow me to use the netdisk.
I'd like to use the wap54g to catch the signal (in AP client mode), then pass it through to the wrt via the WAN port.... but so far I can't seem to get it to play well with others.
I guess my question is: am I wasting my time? is the wap54g able to ap client from a non-linksys router? I'd rather spend $50 on another wrt54g than a week of frustration with this wap.... but only if I have to 
Thanks!
NB: I'm new to this, so more specific responses are a lot more helpful, but I'll take anything! |
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jnlk26
join:2002-03-27
San Jose, CA
| reply to pazuzu5
Re: Before you post 'how to share WiFi to neighbor
Help me,
Can you recommend any proper outdoor or indoor wireless antenna that may support the DI-634M Super G 108Mbps MIMO
router and the DWL-G650M MIMO notebook adapter ?
First house uses the MIMO router and the second house uses
the MIMO notebook adapter. We are just 250 feet apart.
No trees on the drive.
Jon |
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pazuzu5
join:2001-06-14
King Of Prussia, PA | reply to arneson
Channel 3 still tramples with channel 6. In North America, only ISM channels 1,6,11 are out of each other's way. |
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Edt01
@direcpc.com | reply to fclodomiro
Open up a Command Prompt (Start, Programs, Accessories, Command Prompt). It opens a black DOS window.
Input: Ipconfig /all
It shows all of the networking stuff.
Exit the window by typing: Exit
Gene |
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djdanska
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Im down in rural illinois and am very surprised on the range with my old wrt54g router. My friends father has two small houses. The main one and another one down the block. They have broadband internet through mediacom for their granddaughter.
Well, he wanted a laptop. We got him one and he has been on dial up for a few weeks. (in the other house. The 'quiet' one.)
Put my old high gain antennas from linksys on and boost the power a little and it worked magic! A stable signal with half way decent speeds. I now don't have to watch 4 fuzzy tv stations!
It's a good 6 houses down (with a street in the middle!)
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funchords
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Sometimes, when you upgrade antennas, you lose your gain in the antenna's cable. The longer the cable, the worse.
I'm not a fan of repeaters, except for point-to-point use like you're suggesting.
Or, another thing to try ...
Wi-Fi signals are quite reflective. If you want to experiment with that, you want to "bank shot" off of another building at an angle (as you would if you were shooting a bank-shot in pool/billiards). You need both the building AND the angle.
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jb11
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Re: Before you post 'how to share WiFi to neighbor?'
Apologies if I'm going off on a tangent, but I guess my question falls under this category. In a way.
We've been experiencing some range issues with an 802.11g connection between two apartments, and I'd taken the plunge on some branded high gain antennae; a 6dbi directional unit and a 7dbi omni, all with no luck. There has been hardly ANY difference in signal strength, and I'm just curious as to whether I've picked up lemons, or if in my situation, a HGA would make no difference?
In a straight line, the signal doesn't have it easy. Passing through two walls at very acute angles, through a hallway (usually very clear), before it hits a fire door (!), passing through the other side of the hallway (again very clear) and getting to our apartment at yet another acute angle. The door takes a huge chunk out of signal strength, representing about 50-60% of the signal loss from the various utilities I have at my disposal. Now I know that HGA's aren't miracle toys, but I would have thought that it would have made even a *little* bit of difference. Unfortunately, that wasn't the case. Signal strength outside our front door is identical, from the default 2dbi duck, through the directional and finally with the omni. It's not really a monetary concern as I've been returning them if they haven't worked so far, but none of them have.
At this point, it looks like we're going to have to get a repeater, but I'd like to know what the other posters here with experience think before I go out and get one?
Much thanks for your advice. |
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avd706
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join:2003-02-06
Union, NJ | reply to vincentfox
Change your channel to avoid interference.
War hammocking anyone? |
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arneson
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I have Linksys wireless networks all around my backyard.
All except my own are on channel 6, and open with router defaults. I'm on channel 3, but otherwise also open.
If I associate with one of the neighbor wifi's my surf speed actually increases even thou the signal is weaker.
All 5 networks near me are G's, mine is a B.
Workgroups are all MSHOME and sharing is on, so what I'm saying is, I live in a secluded nondescript little neighborhood, so this must be happening every where.
I don't need to war drive anywhere, they're everywhere. |
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pm709
@tn.charter | reply to fclodomiro
Fclodomiro: In Windows; Start->All programs->Accessories->Command Prompt |
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fclodomiro
join:2005-06-15
San Juan, PR | reply to vincentfox
Re: Before you post 'how to share WiFi to neighbor
i'll rearrange things and get the copper wire, thanks |
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vincentfox
join:2003-03-18
Davis, CA
4 edits | reply to fclodomiro
Survey: it's doing what you asked, which is scanning for local AP's. It does not matter that it can see the other one, it's not set to attach to it. Just make sure you have your household AP separated by 5 channels to avoid interference.
It's not clear how you have the ethernet cabled. You say "lan" ports on each end, which I would consider not ideal. Best would be to come from a LAN port of the rooftop AP into the WAN port of your household AP.
2 reasons for this:
1) AP client mode normally only accepts a single locally-attached client. If you hook up more than one client then goofy things start to happen. The 2nd WRT and a laptop would make for 2 MAC addresses on that AP client side I think you have missed this point.
2) If you hook up to WAN port, then you can use the 2nd WRT as it was intended, as a wireless router. All the LAN ports and WiFi become a private network that is protected from the outside by the builtin NAT firewall.
Also the surge arrestor you should use a copper wire tying it to a grounding rod. Most houses if you look around outside near the telephone and electrical junction boxes, you will find an existing rod you can attach to. A solid copper wire of about the thickness of a #2 pencil lead should be fine, I forget what size that is. |
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fclodomiro
join:2005-06-15
San Juan, PR
| reply to vincentfox
Re: Before you post 'how to share WiFi to neighbor?'
Hi guys. I’m in victory mode after (seriously) more than 60 hours on such a simple project. Since I had no knowledge about networks, I had to read a lot, research, try to figure things out, but finally managed to set up the system, in part because of this page »media.weblogsinc.com/common/vide···mode.htm and because of your hints. So I truly thank you, not only for your suggestions, but for your niceness. So many forums seem to operate just so they can bash people and make them feel like shit. I realize how little I know after trying this setup, but with a little patience, the knowledgeable out there can help outliers move into the mainstream. So thanks again.
Just so my experience can serve other newbies out there, here’s a rundown:
I have a free hotspot near my house which I was able to log on to from my laptop in my backyard, but I wanted to bring the signal indoors to use on my other computers and to wifi my home’s interior.
I used a parabolic antenna focused on the hotspot together with a LMR400 cable. Additionally I attached a surge arrestor that came without instructions, so I just tied that to the antenna’s pole (ended up adding about 8 i-have-no-clue-what-these-are-for nuts, and rubber donuts to my collection of useless nuts and bolts).
This cable ends up in an n-plug to which a pigtail ending in TNC connector is attached. I took both WRT54G’s antennas out, one where the pigtail was plugged in and the other to minimize any interference.
I have TWO WRT54G, which I bought because I realize the SveaSoft firmware allows you to turn these into anything. A dedicated AP is more expensive and in the future you can’t use it for anything else, as it only has one input. Setting up these babies requires visiting »192.168.1.1 (user: leave blank, password: admin). The two WRT54G’s were flashed (just upgraded with 3rd party software, follow the link in the first paragraph for a better idea) and I set them up as follows.
Hotspot (you must know this in order to set up the network, pick this info up from your wireless card info, or once you set up the first Client, you can ‘sniff’ this info via a Survey function provided by Sveasoft):
IP 192.168.0.100
Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
Default gateway: 192.168.0.1
DNS server: 192.168.0.1
Ch 6
SSID: Default
Client (1st WRT54G connected to outside antenna)
Automatic DHCP
IP: 192.168.1.1
Subnet: 255.255.255.0
Gateway: 192.168.0.1 (same as on hotspot)
DHCP Server: ENABLED
Setup/Advanced Routing: Gateway
Wireless/Basic: Client, Mixed, Default (SSID from Hotspot)
Wireless/Advanced: All default, except for Antenna (both set to Right, where outside antenna cable comes into=on V3, ‘right’ is from the back perspective) and Xmit Power (I left at 28)
**beware that setting up the Access Point was kind of a pain, as sometimes it wouldn’t let me see the setup page, so I ended up rebooting a few times and restarting all over. That’s why it’s important to jot down your final setup***
Access Point(AP) (2nd WRT54G connected via Cat5 to lan ports on both CLIENT and Access Point)
Static IP
IP: 192.168.1.3
Subnet: 255.255.255.0
Gateway: 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server: DISABLE!
Wireless/Basic: AP, B(I only have a B-type card), Default(same as hotspot and client), Ch is 12 (to separate from Client’s)
SSID Broadcast is Enabled (I’ve read there’s no security advantage not to)
SSID: SomethingDifferent (to differentiate from hotspot and Client)
Encryption set to WPA
Wireless/Advanced: all set to Default
That’s it.
Guys would you suggest me to change any of the default settings, ie amount of power for the Client versus the AP that must transmit the wifi signal?
When I check the Survey in the setup page, the Client’ seems to be picking up the signal from both the rooftop’s antenna and from the AP next to it. Do you think this screws up the Client or since it is set to look for the hotspot, it just ignores my AP?
Regarding the CMD command, it won’t run from START/RUN, but I can go into accessories and use the MS-DOS command prompt and it will stay open and allow me to do all necessary commands. Something is screwy in the RUN function. It could be a larger WinXP problem. I reinstalled everything on my laptop about 2 weeks ago, and during a session, the whole bottom task bar (from start through program indicators to the taskbar on the right side) will freeze, won’t work for about 3 minutes. I can only move between my open windows (using ALT TAB), if I hit anything in the taskbar (including CTRL ALT DEL) all these actions will pile up, and when the computer unfreezes, all these actions will happen in their original order. Long story short, the CMD error could be due to a WINXP screwup.
Thanks all for all again. |
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funchords
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said by fclodomiro :Hi Funchords, I've tried Start/Run/CMD first and it still closes the window automatically. I've done this several times in a row to be able to read the error message, but it opens and closes so fast that my eyes barely get a glimpse of the black window. I've tried searching the WinXp forums to no avail. When you run it from the first window, does the command seem to run in a second window?
Or, when you run it from the first window, the command seems to run and then closes that first window?
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