mocks1 join:2002-04-27 Farmingdale, NY |
mocks1
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2005-Feb-16 1:25 pm
Why Is OOL Selectively Blocking Bit Torrent PacketIn the last few days I SUDDENLY cannot upload a single bit to another using Bit Torrent (BT) technology. People connect for a few seconds and then disappear. There is nothing wrong with my end. I am well versed in port forwarding and firewalls. This behavior is duplicated at a friend's house that had a stable setup on OOL. I have used two different BT clients. Connected Surfboard 4200 modem using USB directly to computer, bypassing my router. I have shut off my software firewall and made sure Windows firewall was off. I just read a forum post about Cox Cable doing the exact same thing. I know that OOL was blocking uploads on WINMX last Summer and now it appears that they are aggressively targeting BT users. » Cox dropping (not blocking) P2P trafficThis is ridiculous. Bit Torrent can be used for legitimate purposes and I don't want to hear the TOS server crap. I have given OOL thousands in business but they are about to lose many thousands more in future business if they do not stop this sneaky, underhanded, and uncalled for tactic. PUT SOME MONEY INTO YOUR UPLOAD INFRASTRUCTURE AND FORGET ABOUT HANDCUFFING PAYING CUSTOMERS, MANY OF WHOM BOUGHT YOUR SERVICE TO USE JUST FOR P2P APPS. I would not miss 20%-25% less download speed if you would be fair with the upload speed Trying to finance your bullshit Anti-Football Stadium commercials at the expense of your PAYING customers is BAD BUSINESS Greedy Shitheads |
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Re: Why Is OOL Selectively Blocking Bit Torrent PaSomething is up.Im unable to upload BT as well. I work for ool and will get some info for you.
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KerrymanRyan's Corollary - Murphy Is An Optimist join:2000-07-19 New York |
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Re: Why Is OOL Selectively Blocking Bit Torrent PacketAnd profanity riddled insults are going to get them to change their policies how?
One day "power users" are going to realize that OOL is ALWAYS going to cater to the overwhelming majority of their customer base that either doesn't upload or doesn't care about it enough to consider canceling service.
If they can continue to satisfy them they have absolutely no incentive to add upload capabilities for the really minuscule number of customers who need it. Is it right? Maybe not, but its fact.
Cancel your service and tell them its because of crappy uploads and you'll see nothing but crocodile tears from them as they usher you to the door. |
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If this turns out to be true, I'm going back to SBC.
I just switched from SBC to OOL a couple of months ago.
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Just a thought, but have you tried using a non-standard port?
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Anon
2005-Feb-16 2:45 pm
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Re: Why Is OOL Selectively Blocking Bit Torrent PaWorking fine here .... (Azureus limited to 16 KB/s to avoid capping) |
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intocable7A M A Z I N Premium Member join:2003-03-05 Bronx, NY |
yea im seeding at 116 Kb/s as we speak. |
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Re: Why Is OOL Selectively Blocking Bit Torrent PacketIts a know fact that most ISPs are blocking default bit torrent ports..
Change the ports on your bit torrent client and see if it helps |
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Working fine with me, I'm downloading something as we speak. Uploading at 40KB/s. |
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Re: Why Is OOL Selectively Blocking Bit Torrent PaIm having the same problem with it just happened maybe 5 - 10 days ago. I dunno what they are thinking of themselves. If they continue doing these little things all the time they will surely lose over 50% of their costumers once FIOS gets here. If I were in their position I would certainly do my best so the people wouldnt recognize FIOS as an upcoming competition. There just messing their reputation up and dont even realize it.
Btw I changed my ports to any random number and Im still having the same problem.
One more thing intocable if you keep uploading at 116 kb/s its just a matter of time before you get capped. |
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intocable7A M A Z I N Premium Member join:2003-03-05 Bronx, NY |
i been capped 7 times already and just use my lil tactic to get it uncapped without tech support returning a call. but anyways i usually seed a full-blown speeds from 2pm-6pm with a maybe a half an hour break. i been doing this for a months. i use bit-lord as my client. |
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mocks1 join:2002-04-27 Farmingdale, NY |
mocks1
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2005-Feb-19 1:28 am
The strange thing is that when I am downloading I am able to upload normally. As soon as the torrent switches to 100% and is seeding then no one can connect for more than a second and then they disappear. Then zero bits are uploaded over HOURS. It does the same thing at a friend's house but I tested it on a Business OOL connection and there is no problem using Bit Torrent and seeding.
Sorry about the cursing, but I was pretty mad and feel like they are being petty with this policy. This might only be limited to the Huntington area on Long Island for now or limited to certain customers--who knows?
If you start seeing "Waiting For Handshake" a lot when uploading, then your BT packets are being dropped also |
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said by intocable7:i been capped 7 times already and just use my lil tactic to get it uncapped without tech support returning a call. Care to share that lil tactic? PP |
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2005-Feb-19 10:36 am
He mentioned it already; it might be somewhere in the "Capping Discussion Thread - Part 6". |
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I'm having this same issue as of this morning! I am able to download but uploads are not occurring.... WTF?
Correction, on files/torrents I have created, I can not upload. On ones I am downloading, the torrent is sending information back, how could that be?
edit 2: I have had my ports open (I use non-standard 49001) for torrents. I have successfully created and uploaded a torrent as recently as 2/16 and now I can not.
edit 3: was this the trick?: "disconnect your modem from your ethernet card and call tech support and tell them for some reason you cant get online..." - page 10 of other thread. |
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To answer why any ISP would block ports. it's cheaper to block the port then have their legal department and security staff handle the MPAA and RIAA subpoenas |
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If anyone knows it, please share here. I am curious and do not feel like looking through that entire thread. |
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Irish SharkPlay Like A Champion Today MVM join:2000-07-29 Las Vegas, NV
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He calls OOL TS and says that his connection is terrible. Then he asks the tech to please reset the MODEM. The tech then downloads a new config file. |
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comp Premium Member join:2001-08-16 Evans City, PA |
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2005-Feb-20 12:10 am
no problems using BT here |
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MxxCon join:1999-11-19 Brooklyn, NY ARRIS TM822 Actiontec MI424WR Rev. I
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you do realize that bitlord is using stolen source code from bitcomet? i wouldn't be surprised if it had trojan/backdoor |
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said by Irish Shark:He calls OOL TS and says that his connection is terrible. Then he asks the tech to please reset the MODEM. The tech then downloads a new config file. I tried that today they reset my router and I am still having problems uploading to people when i am a seed. I have no problems at all uploading when I am downloading that file though. I am using azurues and tried different ports and still nothing dunno what to do its annoying at times. |
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Re: Why Is OOL Selectively Blocking Bit Torrent Packetsaid by Kerryman:And profanity riddled insults are going to get them to change their policies how? Where is the profanity riddled insult? |
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Re: Why Is OOL Selectively Blocking Bit Torrent Pabecause they want their end users to use ool torrent client. just go to optonline.net and click on the essentials link on top. |
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2005-Feb-21 8:20 am
said by mekonfuzed:because they want their end users to use ool torrent client. just go to optonline.net and click on the essentials link on top. |
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I dont see what you are talking about. Is that for real? |
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Just one question, is it legal for them to be "dropping" torrent upload traffic, isn't that something like invasion of privacy? Don't they at least have to inform us of it? I spoke to OOL tech support and they tell me they don't know of any blocks implemented on torrent traffic either way. I do realize the TOS allows them to do such stuff, but don't they need a reason for doing it? |
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MxxCon join:1999-11-19 Brooklyn, NY ARRIS TM822 Actiontec MI424WR Rev. I
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said by blanka2k2:I tried that today they reset my router and I am still having problems uploading to people when i am a seed. I have no problems at all uploading when I am downloading that file though. I am using azurues and tried different ports and still nothing dunno what to do its annoying at times. your az is configured to disconnect from other seeds so it wouldn't waste connections. that is normal. |
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I'm not sure what you mean Mxxcon, as blanka was saying, when he is downloading a torrent, it allows some of it to upload. When creating a torrent and being the original seeder/uploader nothing gets out, which is what is happening to me.
Does anyone think its worth calling OOL over this? I think I ought to be paying less than $45 a month if they want to take it away from me. Also (I know, wrong thread) whats the best alternative, or my best option? |
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MxxCon join:1999-11-19 Brooklyn, NY ARRIS TM822 Actiontec MI424WR Rev. I
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here's a torrent i just tried..as you can see it's uploading during download and then during seed |
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Was it a torrent you created and are the original uploader for? As I was saying, I can download and seed somewhat on one torrent, which could either be the top or bottom on your azureus capture.
But if I make a torrent and try to seed, I am not able to. And if you are able to, I dont know if you are helping us figure this out or thinking we are idiots. |
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