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playbl162
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Ad-Aware SE Definitions?

Ad-Aware hasn't updated definitions in 17 days. Is that typical or unusual?

Just Curious...
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
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Before, I would say unusual... but after this latest debacle, no one knows.
Perhaps they are doing some rethinking of what and who to be friends with. I just hope it becomes the USERS and not the BAD GUYS.



playbl162
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said by dadkins:

Before, I would say unusual... but after this latest debacle, no one knows.
Perhaps they are doing some rethinking of what and who to be friends with. I just hope it becomes the USERS and not the BAD GUYS.

Explain...........
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Oh



rogue_
I Have A Secret Window
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reply to playbl162
Well, AdAware has made aliances with spyware, malware companie(s) and the true value of Ad Aware is now not so great.

I hate to say this but your likely going to be sholdering up with MS in the near future for un-biased scanning.

And when I say un-biased I mean you will still have to accept the fact that whatever MS says is spyware etc will be detected and they don't have the cleanest record either.
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playbl162
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said by rogue_:

Well, AdAware has made aliances with spyware, malware companie(s) and the true value of Ad Aware is now not so great.

I hate to say this but your likely going to be sholdering up with MS in the near future for un-biased scanning.

And when I say un-biased I mean you will still have to accept the fact that whatever MS says is spyware etc will be detected and they don't have the cleanest record either.
I guess research will be needed to find a solid replacement for Ad-Aware.
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bluezanetti
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reply to rogue_

said by rogue_:

Well, AdAware has made aliances with spyware, malware companie(s) and the true value of Ad Aware is now not so great.
I really can't let this stand as is. Based on all the information that is publically available, this statement is patently false.

They have certainly dropped the ball on detections of WhenU. They have clearly mishandled the initial notification of this change and the subsequent uproar. They are in dire need of a person to rationally and adequately handle their public relations needs. But they are not in bed with the malware producers of this world.

Blue


BillRoland
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reply to playbl162
You'd be better off going with Spybot S&D and Microsoft AntiSpyware IMHO.
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rogue_
I Have A Secret Window
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reply to playbl162
bluezanetti,

It's time to wake up and smell the coffee. There is too much money at stake for folks like Ad Aware and even SpyBot to pass up. The advertisers have big bucks and rolling over some small time programming folks like afore mentioned is now all the rage. If ya can't beat 'em, BUY 'EM!
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Martinus
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reply to rogue_

said by rogue_:

I hate to say this but your likely going to be sholdering up with MS in the near future for un-biased scanning.
Or you could use KAV which takes care of virii, spyware, dialers and other malware before it infects your box.

The beauty of it is that you won't need having 2 or 3 different programs doing real-time scanning watching your back.
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Kayrac
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Madison, WI

i always liked kav, but it gave many many problems on my old computer and new, i stick with norton, TH and ms antispyware, and my brain



rogue_
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reply to Martinus

said by Martinus:

said by rogue_:

I hate to say this but your likely going to be sholdering up with MS in the near future for un-biased scanning.
Or you could use KAV
Agreed.

But also know that Kaspersky IS Microsoft.. lol »ecoustics-cnet.com.com/Third+buy···6-2.html

It's all about the dollar.
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Martinus
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reply to Kayrac

said by Kayrac:

i always liked kav, but it gave many many problems on my old computer and new, i stick with norton, TH and ms antispyware, and my brain
Well, you still need to use your brain, even using KAV. I guess KAV is intended to be used by people with brains

I can't see why running both any Norton security application - well known for bloatware- and MSAS realtime monitor can be better than KAV relating performance.
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rogue_
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To each, their own.



Kayrac
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well now that my computer can handle NIS, i like the bloat :P........plus it doesn't bring my system to crawl like kav has done



Martinus
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reply to rogue_

said by rogue_:

But also know that Kaspersky IS Microsoft.. lol
I wouldn't say that.

MS has apparently bought - or are in the process of buying - Sybary, which happens to use - amongst other things - the KAV engine.
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antiserious
The Future ain't what it used to be
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Scranton, PA

reply to playbl162

said by playbl162:

Ad-Aware hasn't updated definitions in 17 days. Is that typical or unusual?

Just Curious...

... if you want to know what's up, you'll have to read through this > »ASW Vendors in La-La Land ... and it'll take a while ...

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bluezanetti
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reply to rogue_

said by rogue_:

bluezanetti,

It's time to wake up and smell the coffee. There is too much money at stake for folks like Ad Aware and even SpyBot to pass up. The advertisers have big bucks and rolling over some small time programming folks like afore mentioned is now all the rage. If ya can't beat 'em, BUY 'EM!
Rogue,

I did! Earlier this morning! Peet's Top Blend..., a wonderful scent.

Some companies have started down the path you mentioned. AdAware, produced by Lavasoft, isn't one of them..., yet. I don't know the driver behind the WhenU fiasco experienced by Lavasoft recently, but I sincerely doubt it was via either a formal or informal alliance.

I also agree some will fall victim to the siren call of money or pull back at the threat of costly litigation. That scenario is playing out now. It's not over yet.

Blue


keith2468
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join:2001-02-03
Winnipeg, MB

reply to playbl162
Maybe the Ad-aware guys are in a depressed funk over what the future holds.

Legal advise isn't cheap.

When is the last time one of us sent them something by PayPal.

As well as the Coast thing, and MS belatedly getting into the ASW market, there is the fact that AV products are also going after spyware and covert adware.

The free part of Ad-aware is a scanner. It was the #2 product in eBurger's tests. Ad-aware doesn't incur overhead except when the scanner is running. And no ASW product is anywhere close to 100% effective.

So for now I'm going to keep Ad-aware SE as one tool in my arsenal.
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dp
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said by keith2468:

So for now I'm going to keep Ad-aware SE as one tool in my arsenal.
Same here, they will remain a part of my toolbox.
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