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reply to gate1975mlm

Re: Ad-aware SE Personal Edition 1.05?????

1 cookie!

19 registry entries AFTER the remover was ran!

reply to dadkins
Thanks dadkins for posting a real world example of what most of us thought would happen. How anyone can continue to "trust" Lavasoft with a staight face is beyond my ability to understand. Not in bed with WhenU? Yeah, right!
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"Don't steal. The government hates competition."

reply to christos
No worries christos, I have an image from Wednesday. All better now! :)

reply to dadkins
Hi, dadkins. After reading your post, I checked with other team members and received permission to quote the following nalysis. I hope it helps.

said by Mar 6 2005, 11:26 PM:

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1. bearshare free 4.6 from download.com..the pro is 7.0

2. You are about to install or upgrade the advertisement supported version of bearshare absolutley FREE of charge......

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....Bearshare's advertising support is provided by Savel software. Use of Savel is required to continue to use Bearshare for free and removal of Savel using 3rd party programs or manual deletion is not permitted if you continue to keep the free version of Bearsgare on your PC.

Note: If you are a Bearshare Pro customer, please exit this installer and install Bearshare Pro in order to receive all the benefits of your Bearshare Pro subscription

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Bearshare EULA:

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I. BearShare End-User Software License Agreement
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Please read this End User License Agreement ("Agreement") carefully before choosing the "I Agree" option. By choosing "I Agree," you are agreeing to be bound by the terms of this Agreement. If you do not agree to the terms of this Agreement, then Free Peers, Inc. ("Free Peers") is unwilling to license the Software to you, and you should not use the Software. By installing, downloading, copying, or otherwise using the Software, you acknowledge that you have read these terms and conditions, understand them, and agree to be bound by them. If you do not agree to these terms and conditions, you are not authorized and may not use the Software.

The Software is the current version of the Bearshare program. This Agreement also applies to but is not limited to, all future updates and modifications to the Bearshare program, the Bearshare installer, all executables, all documentation, and logos, trademarks, services marks and trade names ("Software"). The Software is copyrighted and owned by Free Peers. The Software is licensed to you for use only under the terms set forth in this Agreement. Free Peers reserves any right not expressly granted in this Agreement. You own or may own the media on which the Software is stored, but Free Peers retains title to the Software. By installing the Software you assume sole responsibility for the installation, use and results obtained from use of the Software.

BearShare's advertising support is provided by Save! software. Use of Save! is required to continue to use BearShare for free. Removal of Save! using third party programs or manual deletion is prohibited by this license agreement if you continue to keep the free version of BearShare on your PC.

1. License

This Agreement is only a license to use the Software. It is not a transfer of title to the Software. Free Peers grants you a limited, non-exclusive license to do only the following:

A. Download, and install the Software on a single computer for your personal, non-commercial use.

B. Make one copy of the Software in machine-readable form solely for backup or archival purposes for the computer on which the Software is installed. The Software is copyrighted and protected by law and international treaty. As an express condition of the license granted by this Agreement, you agree to reproduce this Agreement with such backup copy as well as any other copyright notice and proprietary legends accompanying the original Software supplied by Free Peers.

C. Transfer the Software and all rights under this License to another party provided you transfer a copy of this Agreement and all written materials accompanying the Software to such other party and such other party reads and agrees to accept the terms and conditions of this Agreement.

2. Restrictions

The following companies, individuals, entities, and their affiliates, subsidiaries, employees, officers, and directors are prohibited from installing, downloading, copying, or otherwise using the Software:

A. MediaForce, Inc.
New York, NY U.S.A
Tel: 212-925-9997
Fax: 973-543-5031
www.mediaforce.com

B. Mediadefender, Inc.
555 West 5th St, Suite 3500
Los Angeles, Ca 90013
www.mediadefender.com

C. Cyveillance, Inc.
1555 Wilson Blvd., Suite 404
Arlington, VA 22209-2405
Tel: 703.351.1000
Fax: 703.312.0536
www.cyveillance.com

D. SK Group
SK Corporation
Overpeer, Inc.
110 E. 55th Street
New York, NY 10022
Tel: 212-906-8173
www.sk.com
www.overpeer.com

The license granted under this Agreement prohibits you from doing any of the following:

A. Sublicensing, assigning, or distributing copies of the Software to others.

B. Decompiling, reverse engineering, disassembling, or otherwise reducing the Software to a human readable form.

C. Decompiling, reverse engineering, disassembling, or otherwise manipulating the software or the program to gain access to the cryptographic proprietary algorithms of the Software, such as the authenticated host connections, the digital signatures, authenticated downloads, authenticated uploads, and hostile host detection.

D. Modifying, copying, reproducing, adapting, translating, renting, leasing, loaning, selling, distributing, or otherwise assigning or transfering the Software, or creating derivative works based upon the Software or any part thereof, except as expressly provided in this Agreement.

E. Using the Software for any commercial purpose or public display or performance.

E. Removing any copyright notice, trademark, or proprietary legend included in the Software.

F. Restricting or inhibiting any other user from using and enjoying their rights to use the Software.

G. Harvesting, logging, or otherwise collecting information about other users, including, personal data, IP addresses, e-mail addresses, time and dates of transmissions, search result requests, downloads, and uploads.

H. Violating any applicable laws or regulations, including any patent, trademark, trade secret, copyright, or other proprietary rights of a third party.

I. Advertising, offerring to sell any goods or services, or attempting to drive traffic to a unauthorized third party web site through the software.

J. Impersonating any person or entity by falsely stating or otherwise misrepresenting your identity, affiliation or any other misrepresentation.

K. Forging or hiding headers or otherwise manipulating identifiers in order to disguise the origin of any content downloaded, uploaded, or any search results transmitted.

L. Forging or hiding the identity of a Software servant, Software digital signature, Software authentication download/upload challenge or response, or a host identified in the hostile host detection list.

M. Transmitting any material that contains a virus or any other computer code, files, or programs designed to interrupt, destroy, or limit the functionality of any computer software or hardware or telecommunications equipment.

N. Interfering with or disrupting the service, servers, or network that this Software connects with by posting false information or data.

3. Protection and Security

You agree to use your best efforts and to take all reasonable steps to safeguard the Software to ensure that no unauthorized person(s) shall have access thereto and that no unauthorized copy, publication, disclosure or distribution in whole or in part, in any form, shall be made. You acknowledge that the Software contains valuable confidential information and trade secrets and that unauthorized use and/or copying are harmful to Free Peers.

4. Use of the Software

Free Peers respects the rights of copyright owners to control commercial uses of their material. The Software enables users to connect to, download files from and share files over public and private Gnutella networks. By using the Software you acknowledge that you are responsible for complying with all federal and state laws applicable to the content you download and share using the Software, including copyright laws. Unauthorized copying, distribution, modification, public display, or public performance of copyrighted works may be an infringement of the copyright holders' rights in certain circumstances. You acknowledge that any liability for such infringement lies solely with you. You agree to indemnify and hold Free Peers, its parents, subsidiaries, affiliates, successors, officers, directors and employees, harmless from any claim, demand, or damage, including reasonable attorneys' fees, asserted by any third party due to or arising out of your use of the Software.

By using the Software you acknowledge that you are aware that some files available on the public or private Gnutella networks accessible through the Software may have been created or distributed without the authorization of the copyright owner or as authorized by law. As a condition to the license granted under this Agreement, you agree that you will not use the Software to infringe the copyrights or other intellectual property rights of others in any way. Free Peers reserves the right to terminate the license granted under this Agreement in appropriate circumstances upon any single infringement of the rights of others in conjunction with use of the Software or if Free Peers believes the your conduct is harmful to the interests of Free Peers, its affiliates, or other users; or for any other reason in Free Peers's sole discretion, with or without cause.

As a condition to your use of the Software, you agree that you will not use the Software (i) to invade the privacy of, obtain the identity of, or obtain any personal information about (including but not limited to IP addresses of) any other user of the Software, or to modify, erase or damage any information contained on the computer of any other user of the Software; (ii) to infringe the intellectual property rights of others in any way (iii) to "stalk" or otherwise harass others; (iv) to collect or distribute child pornography or other obscene or illegal material; or (v) promote or provide instructional information about illegal activities, promote physical harm or injury against any group or individual, or promote any act of cruelty to animals or (vi) to engage in any other illegal activities such as treason or terrorism (this may include, but is not limited to, providing instructions on how to assemble bombs, grenades and other weapons).

The Software may collect anonymous aggregate information for general statistical analysis purposes. However, the Software does NOT collect any personally identifiable information such as a name, an e-mail address, or a unique ID, ensuring complete anonymity for users.

5. Termination

The license granted under this Agreement is effective until terminated. However, this license will terminate immediately without notice from Free Peers if you fail to comply with any of the provisions of this Agreement. Upon termination you must destroy the Software and all copies thereof, and you may terminate this License at any time by doing so.

6. Disclaimer of Warranties

This Software is provided by Free Peers 'As Is'. Free Peers makes no representations or warranties of any kind. Any express or implied warranties, including, but not limited to, the implied warranties of merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose are disclaimed to the full extent permitted by applicable law. In no event shall Free Peers or its parents, subsidiaries, affiliates, successors, officers, directors and employees be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental, special, exemplary, or consequential damages (including, but not limited to, procurement of substitute goods or services; loss of use, data, or profits; or business interruption) however caused and on any theory of liability, whether in contract, strict liability, or tort (including negligence or otherwise) arising in any way out of the use of this Software, even if advised of the possibility of such damage. Free Peers has no control over any information or data sent or received on any Gnutella network, public or private, accessible through the Software. Free Peers makes no guarantees as to such information and data. You acknowledge that content obtained through any Gnutella network in no way implies endorsement or liability by Free Peers. Free Peers, its parents, subsidiaries, affiliates, successors, officers, directors and employees, shall not, directly or indirectly, be liable, in any way, to you or any other person for the information or data you receive using the Software. Certain state laws do not allow limitations on implied warranties or the exclusion or limitation of certain damages. If these laws apply to you, some or all of the above disclaimers, exclusions, or limitations may not apply to you. If you are dissatisfied with any portion of the Software, or with any of these terms of use, your sole and exclusive remedy is to discontinue using the Software.

The Software may contain technical inaccuracies or typographical errors. Accordingly, changes and/or updates may be affected without notice to you. Free Peers may also make improvements and/or other changes to the Software at any time without notice to you. You acknowledge that Free Peers may from time to time issue upgraded versions of the Software, and may automatically electronically upgrade the version of the Software that you are using on your computer. You consent to such automatic upgrading, and agree that the terms and conditions of this Agreement (as may be amended from time to time by notices posted on Free Peers' web site) will apply to all such upgraded versions.

7. Governing Law

Free Peers makes no representations that the Software is appropriate or available for use in locations outside the United States of America. Those who download this Software from other jurisdictions do so at their own volition and are responsible for compliance with local law. You may not use or export this Software in violation of U.S. export laws and regulations. This Agreement and any and all claims relating to the Software shall be governed and construed in accordance with the laws of the State of Florida, United States of America, without regard to or application of choice of law rules or principles. By using the Software, you agree that any dispute, controversy or claim arising out of or relating to this Agreement or its breach, termination, avoidance or invalidity, shall be resolved by a court of competent jurisdiction in the State of Florida, Miami-Dade County. By using the Software, you agree to submit to the jurisdiction of the state or federal courts located in Miami-Dade County Florida in connection with any legal proceeding relating to use of the Software.

8. Miscellaneous

This Agreement constitutes the entire Agreement between the parties with respect to the subject matter hereof, and all prior proposals, Agreements, representations, statements and undertakings are hereby expressly cancelled and superseded. This Agreement may not be changed or amended except by a written instrument executed by a duly authorized officer of Free Peers.

Free Peers may amend the terms and conditions of this Agreement at any time by a notice on its web site, which shall be binding upon you; accordingly, you are urged to visit the Free Peers web site periodically to review the then current and effective terms and conditions for use of the Software. Certain provisions of these terms and conditions may be superceded by expressly designated legal notices or terms located within the Free Peers web site.

No delay or failure to take action under these terms and conditions will constitute a waiver thereof by Free Peers unless expressly waived in writing by a duly authorized officer of Free Peers.

A determination that any provision or part of any provision in this Agreement is invalid or unenforceable shall not invalidate or impair any other provision in this Agreement.

9. Intellectual Property

"BearShare, The Power To Share", "Defender", "Free Peers", and "Free Peers Agent" are trademarks of Free Peers and may not be used without permission.

Copyright in the Software is owned exclusively by Free Peers and is protected by law and international treaty.

By clicking the "I Agree" button below and installing this Software or using it, you acknowledge that you have read this Agreement, understand it, and agree to be bound by its terms and conditions.

© 2000 - 2003 Free Peers, Inc.

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Each item is listed in an EULA and you must click accept

Whenu.com

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END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT AND PRIVACY STATEMENT

PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING TERMS AND CONDITIONS BEFORE DOWNLOADING, INSTALLING AND USING THE SAVE! BUNDLE (THE "SOFTWARE") PROVIDED BY WHENU.COM, INC. ("WHENU.COM"). USE OF THE SOFTWARE IS SUBJECT TO THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS SET FORTH IN THIS LICENSE AGREEMENT (THE "LICENSE AGREEMENT"). BY INSTALLING THE SOFTWARE YOU INDICATE YOUR ACCEPTANCE OF THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS SET FORTH HEREIN. WHENU.COM RESERVES THE RIGHT TO REVISE THIS LICENSE AGREEMENT AND PRIVACY STATEMENT AT ANY TIME.

Functionality

WhenU.com's Save! software shows you relevant coupon offers, contextual information and services as you surf the Web. Save! attempts to display offers at the moment when they are most relevant to you. Offers and information are displayed in the form of interstitials ("pop-up ads") and various other ad formats.

The Save! software selects which ads and offers to display to individual users based on several factors, including: which Web pages you visit, search terms you use while searching online, content of the Web pages you view and your local zip code (if you have supplied it). Save! ads and offers are delivered in a separate, independent window controlled by WhenU.com, are not endorsed or affiliated with anyone other than WhenU.com and may in fact be competitive with some of the sites visited by the user while online.

Save! software enables users to receive advertising-supported versions of many popular software applications for free. Use of Save! is required to continue using these applications for free. As a result, Save! cannot be uninstalled from your computer's Control Panel independently. In order to completely remove Save! from your computer, you must uninstall all of the Save!-supported software from your computer. Once you do so, your Save! software will automatically be uninstalled as well.

The License

The software is licensed to you for your personal, non-commercial use only. Other than the rights expressly granted to you hereunder, no other right is granted to you. Without limitation, you may not: (a) modify or create any derivative works of the software or documentation; (B) decompile, disassemble, reverse engineer, or otherwise attempt to derive the source code for the software; or, without limitation, redistribute, sublicense, or otherwise transfer rights to the software.

Age Limitation
WhenU.com products and services are not available to individuals below the age of 13. By accepting this installation, you are representing that you are not a minor below the age of 13.

Disclaimer of Warranty

You expressly agree that the use of this software is at your own risk. The software is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty of any kind, including without limitation the warranties that it is free of defects and errors, fit for a particular purpose, or non-infringing. WhenU.com reserves the right to periodically update and/or upgrade the software at the company's discretion. Your installation of the software indicates your acceptance of potential future updates and/or upgrades to the software.

The information and services provided by the software and/or WhenU.com are similarly provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty of any kind. The accuracy and reliability of any information content or services provided by the software and or WhenU.com should be independently verified by you as the user prior to making purchase decisions and or any other decisions based on such information content and services.

Limitation of Liability

To the maximum extent permitted by law, in no event will WhenU.com or its agents be liable for any damages arising from the use of or inability to use the software, including, without limitation, damages to users' systems and/or software and/or data, computer failure or malfunction, computer virus transmission, performance delays or communication failures, security breaches or any and all other damages or losses.

Privacy Statement

By downloading the Save/SaveNow software ("the software"), you give permission to WhenU.com ("WhenU") to display relevant contextual information and offers. The software selects which ads and offers to show you based on several factors, including: which Web pages you visit, search terms you use while searching online, content of the Web pages you view and your local zip code (if you have supplied it).

The software protects your privacy by uploading a database of content in small chunks to your desktop and then determining on your desktop whether to retrieve information from WhenU or third-party servers. To protect your privacy, the same database of content is sent to all desktops. Decisions regarding which ads to retrieve to an individual desktop are all processed on the individual user's desktop — and isolated from WhenU servers. In this way, WhenU is able to deliver to you relevant coupons, information and advertisements without sending all of your browsing activity back to WhenU and without establishing any profile about you (even anonymously) on WhenU servers.

Your privacy is also protected in the following manner:

1. Your personally-identifiable information is not required in order to use the software. WhenU does not know your individual identity and does not attempt to discern it in any way.
2. As you surf the Internet, your "clickstream data" (i.e. a log of all the sites you visit) is not transmitted to WhenU or any third party server.
3. WhenU does not assemble any personally-identifiable browsing profiles of you or your individual machine.
4. WhenU does not assemble any anonymous machine-identifiable browsing profile of you or your machine.
5. WhenU does not track which ads and offers you see as an individual user — all of our analysis and tracking of ads is done in the aggregate.

The software does send back a limited amount of information from your desktop in order to count the number of users in our network and optimize the performance and relevancy of the ads. For example, the software may send WhenU a communication that includes information about the webpage you were viewing when you saw or clicked on a particular ad.. WhenU has intentionally designed these communications back to WhenU to be highly protective of user privacy, in the following ways:

a. Each individual desktop is assigned an anonymous, unique machine ID. This machine ID is used only to enable WhenU to count unique, active desktops in the network. The machine ID is not used to determine which ads to serve individual users or to create browsing profiles of users.
b. When ads are requested and/or displayed by the software, impressions and click-throughs, including the factor (e.g., such as the URL, the keyword, or the search term, or some combination thereof) that caused the ad to be displayed are reported to WhenU. To protect your privacy and prevent WhenU or any third party from assembling individual user profiles or knowing which Web sites you visit, your unique machine ID is intentionally excluded from the limited communications sent back to WhenU that may include a URL or such other browsing-specific information.

The Save! software does not place any cookies on your desktop. The Save! software does occasionally make use of session cookies, transient cookies, for the transmission of information between the software’s windows. Session cookies are stored in temporary memory, not retained after the browser is closed, and do not collect information, personal or general, from the user’s computer. It is possible that a third party advertising on our network might place a cookie on your desktop. If you wish to opt-out from third party cookies, please click on the following link and follow the instructions: http://www.networkadvertising.org/optout_nonppii.asp

WhenU.com may update its privacy policy for the software at any time. WhenU is committed to serving highly relevant, contextual coupons and offers, while still providing consumers with industry-leading privacy protection. More information about the software is available here, or for any further questions about our privacy policy please email privacy@whenumail.com.

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In add/Remove programs, users can remove Bear and then Save!
Both removed without any issue and and nothing left behind.

1. Bearshear makes takes you to their EULA, you must accept or cancel and then if you accept, it shows WhenU.com ELA. If you accept, you get the install, if not it will not install anything.

Legal bundling software does not create uninstaller for the 3rd party adware they install.

No group that runs bundling software operations gives their codes to paying 3rd party adware clients to remove their software. I see nothing amiss and both in EULA and the installations along with the removal via add/remove programs I find nothing that dictates us detecting them right now.

The free install is a small link with the pay pro version big links so if a user goes and installs it is their own fault as it is clearly advertised what will occur.

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said by Mar 7 2005, 09:31 AM:

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Also from their EULA:

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...In order to completely remove Save! from your computer, you must uninstall all of the Save!-supported software from your computer....

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What that means is if you want to be rid of WhenU.com software, you need to uninstall the software that installed it first. Which makes sense since it is the Bearshare that in order to continue to run would possibly re-install whenU.com if it found it missing since Bearshare is the bundler.

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reply to Corrine
Corrine,

It matters not if there is an EULA in Bearshare for Whenu.

In my post on the Lavasoft site dated Feb 23,2005

WhenU Installs Without Permission

»www.lavasoftsupport.com/index.ph···ic=59429

I show that when going to the WhenU site:

»www.whenu.com/scan_pc.html

Then Downloading their scanner, that during the install, just the simple Act of reading The EULA itself, causes the install of WhenU to begin.

So, the fact remains, this is and was an easily re-creatable FACT.

I would have thought SOMEONE at Lavasoft would have tested this FACT by now, Instead, Lavasoft wants to point to ONE bundle, of Whenu, and say See It says.... and for some reason, not deal with other bundles of Whenu that are not in fact doing same.

It's all DOUBLE SPEAK at this point.

reply to Corrine
"What that means is if you want to be rid of WhenU.com software, you need to uninstall the software that installed it first. Which makes sense since it is the Bearshare that in order to continue to run would possibly re-install whenU.com if it found it missing since Bearshare is the bundler."

I say again, this is not directed towards you Corrine,

I DID uninstall BearShare, then ran the WhenU Remover I downloaded from Lavasoft's site... THEN ran the scans I posted.

Removing BearShare *AND* running the WhenU Remover and doing as instructed by the Remover to reboot did *NOT* remove the 19 registry entries shown im my posted screen shot.

The removal process DOES NOT remove WhenU. Microsoft Anti-Spyware *DOES* detect & remove the WhenU "items" leftover by the remover.

If ANYONE has the cojones or a guinea pig machine to try it for themselves, PLEASE do.

Thank you for your time Corrine!
David

shes not saying the lavasoft one works(which it should) she's saying that the add/remove programs uninstaller for whenu will(crosses fingers) completely remove it, if your bored, can install bearshare again.....install whenu, uninstall bearshare, and then uninstall whenu, and according to corrine whenu should be gone

There was no uninstaller for WhenU. I did uninstall BearShare and checked for anything "new" in Add and Remove Programs... Nada. I ran the provided WhenU Remover from Lavasoft...

yeah i know, lavasoft dropped the ball big time here, and i don't even use it :P, don't see how they can call it a legitimate program when it sits on your computer, saves what websites you visit, analyzes them, and provies popups at random times for stuff you 'may want', as said by this paragraph

The Save! software selects which ads and offers to display to individual users based on several factors, including: which Web pages you visit, search terms you use while searching online, content of the Web pages you view and your local zip code (if you have supplied it). Save! ads and offers are delivered in a separate, independent window controlled by WhenU.com, are not endorsed or affiliated with anyone other than WhenU.com and may in fact be competitive with some of the sites visited by the user while online.

haha just noticed it saves what you search for, and somehow i think it'll find your zip code even if you don't provide it :P

"Save! ads and offers are delivered in a separate, independent window controlled by WhenU.com, are not endorsed or affiliated with anyone other than WhenU.com and may in fact be competitive with some of the sites visited by the user while online."

visit symantec.com, get a ad for mcafee

"WhenU.com's Save! software shows you relevant coupon offers, contextual information and services as you surf the Web. Save! attempts to display offers at the moment when they are most relevant to you. Offers and information are displayed in the form of interstitials ("pop-up ads") and various other ad formats."

ah just what i was hoping for, pop-ups and various other ad formats

and my personal favorite
"The software protects your privacy by uploading a database of content in small chunks to your desktop and then determining on your desktop whether to retrieve information from WhenU or third-party servers. To protect your privacy, the same database of content is sent to all desktops. Decisions regarding which ads to retrieve to an individual desktop are all processed on the individual user's desktop — and isolated from WhenU servers. In this way, WhenU is able to deliver to you relevant coupons, information and advertisements without sending all of your browsing activity back to WhenU and without establishing any profile about you (even anonymously) on WhenU servers."

(i am whenu software), hmmmm what do i want to upload today.........ah yes the zip code and credit card information so the user can easily buy stuff since we already have there info :P......and i'll download this overpriced crap ads and fill them with popups!

eh theres more in there i find humorous, but i am sick of copying/pasting and editing :P

"visit symantec.com, get a ad for mcafee "

LOL! That's cold!

reply to Kayrac
Are you talking about this WhenU ht tp://updates.ls-servers.com/whenuremover.zip?

you'd have to ask dadkins, i didn't do any testing

reply to dadkins
Believe me, dadkins, I fully understand that posts are not personally directed toward me. After all, I'm merely a volunteer doing my best to help. I'm not asking anyone to agree with me, but rather am presenting another view as well as any additional information I am at liberty to provide. You all are definitely a "tough crowd" here.

ZOverLord, I recall your post. I do not know what security programs you have on your computer vs any programs installed on the machine used for the analysis I posted above. Thus, who is to say that some other software program prevented the download for that person while they were reading the EULA?

As we all know, there are many facets to any situation. I am fortunate to be in the position where I will be able to test the next build of Ad-Aware SE. In the meantime, it is my opinion that you should not be looking for WhenU to be added back to the Def file at this time since, as was stated in Mike Wood's post on the LS Forums, the decision was made to rewrite the TAC. I can only suppose that, for whatever reason that is beyond any information available to me, the old TAC did not allow continued inclusion.

As I wrote here »Ad-Aware SE Definitions? , the new TAC has to be integrated into the program. This obviously involves re-writing the software code as well as GUI changes.

I look forward to the implementation of the new TAC as it is incorporated into the next build.
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Corrine, Lavasoft Forum Administrator

reply to foxsteve

reply to Corrine
Great to see you Corrine!

You are so right! And although I am saddened by the way things have been handled by Lavasoft (to date), I continue to use their program and suggest it's use by family, friends and clients. Why? Because it is still a good tool! That part has not changed. I for one will be very happy to see the new TAC implemented in the new version of Ad-Aware.

All of the existing tools out there have their place, including Ad-Aware. Ad-Aware's software is still good and I would never tell anyone not to continue using it in their arsenal. Each tool has its strong and weak points.

However, I believe that unexperienced users will not do things in the proper order when it comes to getting rid of spyware. They really don't have the time to do the research that we (who deal with this day in and day out) have to do in order to get the best overall success at removal of these nasty pests.

I think most folks just want to know that the tool they purchased or have decided to use as their front line tool is worthy of being used as their front line tool and does the best job it can for them.

For me, right now, that is Webroot Spy Sweeper as a front line product set to real time mode. However, I still use Ad-Aware, MS AntiSpyware, and SpyBot S&D, as well as CWShredder on a weekly basis. No one tool will do the job as we all know.

But at least for now, I simply can't suggest that folks use Ad-Aware as their front line spyware removal tool. I truly hope that will change when the new TAC is implemented in the next version of Ad-Aware as it has been the simplist to use overall in the past and rarely caused any issues with computers. In fact, it was the one product I used to suggest as one that would do no harm and anything it does find is safe to allow it to remove without fear of endangering their computer's health.

Here's looking forward to the next version utilizing their new TAC assessment.

reply to dadkins
When you come down to it, the recommended method for removing WhenU is from PCHell and Symantec:

http://www.pchell.com/support/savenow.shtml
http://sarc.com/avcenter/venc/data/adware.whenu.html

Uninstalling Adware.WhenU

A. Do one of the following:

* On the Windows 98 taskbar:
1. Click Start > Settings > Control Panel.
2. In the Control Panel window, double-click Add/Remove Programs.

* On the Windows Me taskbar:
1. Click Start > Settings > Control Panel.
2. In the Control Panel window, double-click Add/Remove Programs.
If you do not see the Add/Remove Programs icon, click "...view all Control Panel options."

* On the Windows 2000 taskbar:
By default, Windows 2000 is set up the same as Windows 98. In that case, follow the instructions for Windows 98. Otherwise, click Start, point to Settings, point to Control Panel, and then click Add/Remove Programs.

* On the Windows XP taskbar:
1. Click Start > Control Panel.
2. In the Control Panel window, double-click Add or Remove Programs.

B. Locate and click any of the following:
* WhenUSearch
* SaveNow, Save!
* WhenUShop

LilBambi, always a pleasure to see you! I am continually amazed at how small our world really is.
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Corrine, Lavasoft Forum Administrator

Hi Corrine!
So which is it? Uninstalling the parent program removes WhenU?(which it doesn't)
Or look for the uninstaller in Add and Remove programs(which it was not listed in)?

Side Note: The Uninstaller for BearShare ALSO left a few BearShare entries as well.

No worries either way, I have a couple of programs that DO remove this pest and MANY others. Kaspersky Pro with Extended Bases does NOT like WhenU, and from my previous screenies, neither does Microsoft Anti-Spyware.

Thank you Corrine, for your time and effort through all of this!
David