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 Teenager getting off easy if facts are correct

If the facts of the case as reported by AP are correct and the teenager was selling the downloaded stolen material than I think he got off pretty easy. But it is a nice warning for others that this isn't just about copyright infringement, but about theft of service.

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He was selling the stuff... wrong move. Keep it to your self.


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He was selling the stuff... wrong move. Keep it to your self.
No, the wrong move was selling it.
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I do not think those going after people care if you were reselling the stuff or not. They want convictions, because it makes them appear to their stockholders as they are doing something.

I'm waiting for the imprisonment of a 12-year old to catch wind--for publicity sake.


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He was selling the stuff... wrong move. Keep it to your self.
No, the wrong move was selling it.
That's what I just said... ?
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He shouldn't have sold it. Wrong move on his part.

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That's like burning copies of a cracked version of MS Office 2003 and selling it for considerably less than what it's available for in stores.

Selling something that doesn't belong to you... BIG no no.


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Actually, I think his big mistake was selling it.


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said by djrobx See Profile:

Actually, I think his big mistake was selling it.


Good point, but I'm sticking with my idea about it being a bad idea to sell the stuff.
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Actually, I think his big mistake was selling it.


Good point, but I'm sticking with my idea about it being a bad idea to sell the stuff.
Actually, I think his advertising to sell stuff did him in.
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There is definitely a BIG line between downloading and downloading for resale and distribution. Of course he's going to get canned for that one. Even though the US Court system has forgotten that the 1992 audio home recording act allows for the copying of media that you personally own, under the premise that you do NOT re-sell it. However you can give it to anyone that you want, at least that is what the copyright allegedly states.
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I find it hard to justify a criminal conviction on this sort of thing. Remember people this is copyright infringement we're talking about. Not grand theft. Even though copyright law and the NET act makes concessions to move from civil to criminal there isn't enough information on exactly how much he sold for me to say this is justifiable (at least the jail timem... even if it was deferred).

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I agree there is nowhere near enough information for us to form an opinion. When I make a copy of a movie or album for a friend, I usually get money for the blank media that was used. Technically, I'm selling (not profiting) a copyrighted work.

We don't know if he was bootlegging for profit or not. With them letting him off this easy, I'm guessing he wasn't profiting from the sales.


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Actually copyright doesn't allow you to just give the copies to anyone you want. What it allows is that you can make a backup copy of media that you own but if you give away or sell the original, the copy must go with it or be destroyed.
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Technically copyright law doesn't specify this either. As a matter of fact copyright law's only "claim to fame" regarding sharing music is the term "sales and distribution". While this person obviously violated copyright law I still question the validity of the RIAA's other claims.

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Actually, I think his big mistake was selling it.


Good point, but I'm sticking with my idea about it being a bad idea to sell the stuff.
Actually, I think his advertising to sell stuff did him in.
Nahh I think it was the fact he was selling it for profit that got him in hot water.

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He was selling the stuff... wrong move. Keep it to your self.
No, the wrong move was selling it.
lol. I misread your comment. Oh well, I further empathise what you had to say.
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Seriously, selling the stuff is a really bad idea.

If you actually needed someone to tell you that selling w4rez is a bad idea, you probably are the kind of person that would get nabbed stealing a chocolate bar from your local stop and rob.

I've got one friend like that, who actually sells pirated movies ($5-$10), not the smartest apple in the barrel.
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