 SUMwarePremium join:2002-05-21 kudos:2 | reply to Goldengamego
Re: Microsoft Security Bulletin Revisions Still trying to track this down. Before these patches I never had any problems with Firefox. Now, while browsing, my system periodically freezes suddenly. Same with IE.
When I open both browsers at same time my system locks. Never happened before. And mouse behavior is erratic with previously ok settings.
I've cleaned, scanned, restored & rebuilt registry, uninstalled patches, etc. Weird. Never had a problem like this before. My system was very stable.
Will keep at it. Thank you all for your responses. |
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| As you've already observed, both patches supposedly are uninstallable via Add/Remove. FWIW, buried down within the Vulnerability Details FAQ of each patch is a brief explanation of what each general "fix" was that was patched into Win98:
MS05-002/891711 »www.microsoft.com/technet/securi···002.mspx "Cursor & Icon Handling Vulnerability What does the update do? The update removes the vulnerability by modifying the way that cursors, animated cursor, and icon formats are validated prior to rendering."
MS05-015/888113 »www.microsoft.com/technet/securi···015.mspx Hyperlink Object Library Vulnerability "What does the update do? The update removes the vulnerability by modifying the way that the Hyperlink Object Library validates the length of a message before it passes the message to the allocated buffer."
Note: The 888113 update installs file 888113.qfe in \Windows\System; no other new files appear to have been installed by either patch, at least on my Win98 system. -- If God wanted us to work with electrons, He'd make them big enough to see... |
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 Jrb2Premium join:2001-08-31 kudos:3 | - - quote - - Note: The 888113 update installs file 888113.qfe in \Windows\System; no other new files appear to have been installed by either patch, at least on my Win98 system. - - end quote - -
Hi,
I installed those MS updates yesterday on my W98SE (Dutch). I do have new files (report from NIS File Check):
Application: c:\windows\system\kb891711\kb891711.exe Status: New added Version old: 4.10.2222 Size old: 9056 Date old: 2005-02-22 18:07:56 RMD160 Hash old: A79998C78A8C2DA1B7C7504F593B56CD29A4E1C5
Application: c:\windows\options\cabs\hlink.dll Status: New added Version old: 5.2.3790.227 (srv03_qfe.040918 Size old: 68608 Date old: 2004-11-16 13:35:36 RMD160 Hash old: B29114D0F93512562AAB885D3B800BB075408CFD
Application: c:\windows\system\kb891711\q891711.dll Status: New added Version old: 4.10.2222 Size old: 4288 Date old: 2005-02-18 09:53:06 RMD160 Hash old: F6A69FFF80047E05801523445506CFC501AD6B30
And some files were changed.
As for this one: c:\windows\system\kb891711\kb891711.exe That one is now running all the time. I wonder whether others (either on W98SE or XP) see that same one.
Note: My file integrity checker NIS File Check checks several thousands of files. I still have to run my other file integrity checker ADinf32 pro, that checks ALL files.
Thanks ! Cheers, Jan. |
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 SUMwarePremium join:2002-05-21 kudos:2 | I agree. On my box:
The following files are installed/updated -
[C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM] hlink.dll 5.2.3790.22
[C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS] HLINK.DLL 5.2.3790.22
[c:\windows\INF\QFE\W98] 888113UN.INF 891711UN.INF
[C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\KB891711] KB891711.EXE Q891711.DLL
KB891711.EXE is then run as a service at each boot. Several other registry changes are made. |
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 | reply to SUMware Hi SUMware,
installed the 2 fixes yesterday on a Win98SE PC with IE6sp1, and everything is smooth.
FWIW, you could try to change your mouse. I had one time such a trouble, and it came from the mouse.
Charles. |
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| reply to Jrb2 Oooops... my bad! I have a small utility that monitors the root, \Windows, and \Windows\System folders for any added files, but it ignores added folders and any contained files - so it missed the ones you noted. I erred in relying alone on its output during my quick check of installation changes, and forgot about checking for possible added folders. Indeed, they too were added/altered just as with your listing. Sorry for the confusion...  -- If God wanted us to work with electrons, He'd make them big enough to see... |
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| reply to SUMware said by SUMware: KB891711.EXE is then run as a service at each boot. Several other registry changes are made. I'm guessing that the KB891711.exe being run as a service is how MS is validating cursors, animated cursors, and icons "on the fly" as their patch methodology, at least for Win98. It's still unclear to me why you had problems on your system, but it's possible that the patch uninstall isn't "clean", so that any problems that were created are not removed via Add/Remove. -- If God wanted us to work with electrons, He'd make them big enough to see... |
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 SUMwarePremium join:2002-05-21 kudos:2 | Exactly, that's why I manually deleted newly installed files, restored old files & registry, etc.
This is very irritating. |
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