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antdude
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reply to captnhook

MS updated KB891711

FYI. »www.microsoft.com/technet/securi···002.mspx

Frequently asked questions (FAQ) related to this security update

Why was this security bulletin updated on April 12, 2005?

After the release of the MS05-002 security bulletin, Microsoft became aware of an issue affecting customers deploying the Windows 98, 98SE and ME security update. In most cases, the issue caused machines to unexpectedly restart.

Microsoft has investigated this issue and has made available revised security updates for these platforms. These revised security updates are available from Windows Update and the Microsoft Download Center. Customers who have not yet applied the original version of these updates should visit Windows Update to receive the revised updates.

Customers who have already applied the original Windows 98, 98SE and ME security update are advised to install the current revision of the update from Windows Update.

What updates does this release replace?
This security update replaces a prior security bulletin...
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dp
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Thanks for the info antdude See Profile. I was under the impression that it would come back under a different patch number but this clearly states it's a replacement of the original KB891711.
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DrDemento

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reply to captnhook

Re: Problem after MS update KB891711

After having all the problems with the first issuance of this fix-I will wait to install this new updated version until I have seen others do it and post that they have had no problems. I too had expected this update to be issued under a new number as that was what was mentioned by microsoft techs previously when they were contacted via PCSAFETY.


Cudni
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I also had problems with first patch. This one, however, has been running without an issue for the last 20min, while its predecessor would have caused problems by now. Maybe MS did fix it

Cudni
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DSL_Steve
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More on the new re-issue of KB891711 here: »98 & Me users: a re-issue of KB891711



DrDemento

@brick101.nj.comcast.

reply to captnhook
Thanks for the feedback. Have installed the new patch and noted it does not load at start up or show up as a running process. It does show up in Add/Remove programs in Control Panel and I suppose if it causes any grief like the first patch, it could be just removed.



dp
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said by DrDemento:

Thanks for the feedback. Have installed the new patch and noted it does not load at start up or show up as a running process. It does show up in Add/Remove programs in Control Panel and I suppose if it causes any grief like the first patch, it could be just removed.
Is it (KB891711) running as a service?
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reply to antdude

Just uploaded MS update of KB891711----

Rebooted the machine and have noticed that KB891711 is now running at startup through an msconfig inquiry.
I had not loaded the original version of this patch instead I waited for the 02 version.
No operating issues as of yet.

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Cudni
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reply to dp

Re: Problem after MS update KB891711

Loaded as service, and can be seen running using ProcessExplorer

Cudni


DrDemento

@brick101.nj.comcast.

reply to captnhook
Just noticed it is indeed running at startup as per MSCONFIG but not seen when one does control-alt-del



captnhook

join:2001-02-20
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reply to captnhook
Well look at what Microsoft can do when they really want to!
A revised ..rewritten .. re-released patch that works!
No longer is it running as a program task in Task Manager.. no long does it conflict with proxies..different browsers or web filters!
..and no BSOD at least not on this box.. Well done!



DSL_Steve
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Woodbury, CT

Just updated...no issues and not running at start-up (Ctrl-Alt-Del).

[BTW I had no issues with the first version either.]


SUMware
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reply to captnhook
Having endured the agony caused by the previous version of this patch I'm gonna sit this one out a few days and let you sort it out. I'll be very interested in your feedback.

This is a link to the Microsoft Software Forum Network.

One of the posters claims to have modified W98SE (only) OS files to specifically resolve this vulnerability. I cannot vouch for this and have not tried this patch (yet?). But, it might be worth looking at if this can fix the problem without the necessity of an additional running service.



Cudni
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I think you would be better off with, this, MS official patch regardless of how good the hacked dll is

Cudni


SUMware
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I'm not advocating the use of any unofficial patches.

Hope that the new MS version is swell!

It's just an interesting thread to watch...


JackCam614
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New Hyde Park, NY

reply to captnhook
I have installed the New release of KB891711 from WU, and so far everything is A-OK. W98SE. Shows in MSCONFIG (and StartUp Cop, of course) but not running per Ctrl>Alt>Del.

I didn't want to run any longer without the Critical Patch.

...
Jack



HA Nut
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reply to captnhook
Just finished installing the new KB891711. So far, so good! Just wish MS would have tested the first one and avoided all of this...



Hinn

@comcast.net

reply to captnhook
For those that have installed the first release of this patch, but have it disabled from starting up through msconfig...do we have to first uninstall the orginal or re-enable it in msconfig before applying the revised version?? Please advise.


lmilone

join:2001-07-21
Northfield, NJ

reply to captnhook

Re: KB891711 in registry?

I removed the update using ADD/REMOVE (Windows ME) but saw it suggested in some posts that it should also be removed from the registry. Is this recommended or necessary before loading the revised update? If it is where do you find it? I have both RegEdit and RegCleaner available but have to confess I haven't been able to find the proper place to look. Thanks for any input.


DSL_Steve
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reply to Hinn

Re: Problem after MS update KB891711

said by Hinn:

For those that have installed the first release of this patch, but have it disabled from starting up through msconfig...do we have to first uninstall the orginal or re-enable it in msconfig before applying the revised version?? Please advise.
Maybe this will help sort things out... »98 & Me users: a re-issue of KB891711
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