91439306
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Re: Like this will work?
I blame this expansion of government on lobbyists. We should outlaw lobbies, and all the government agencies and expansions that resulted, not to mention the laws they proliferated.
The Founders did not ever imagine a nation run on fiat money (paper with no gold to back it) and the ensuing monetary depreciation, which, when coupled with the sliding income tax scale, real estate valuations, and other systems that are dependant on the dollar's value, results in an onerous tax burden on citizens that could not be imagined in 1790.
The government was supposed to be a republic. Somewere along the line, mob rule (democracy) took over, giving the stupid masses what they wanted, which essentially gave them what they didn't want.
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Skippy25
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In another sense they also didn’t know that it would cost trillions to build and maintain a highway system. There is a reason the framework of this country is fairly broad in nature and only covers the "essentials to life". That truly is the beauty of their work. They knew they could not think of every possible situation that the future would bring. They didn't know how this country was going to be in 50 or even 100 years and yet the document they created still stands strong over 200 years later. Though it is abused and every attempt to bend it to one’s own liking has been made, it still stands and provides for the basic rights it was intended to provide. The rest “we the people” have screwed up.
The single number one problem with taxes is that they have enabled the government to become such a hugh service provider of services they have no business being involved in (retirement, healthcare, business development). Taxes are being used to crutch people and now so many want it to do even more in the way of “helping” people that we will become even more of a slave to it. You can define people as business if you want, but this country spends way too much money “helping people” get ahead in life who either A.) Don’t deserve it or B.) Don’t need it C.) Would find another means if forced to.
In my personal opinion, 90+% of all the government departments should be sold off to the private sector or folded entirely. Let them stand on their own or implode. The government can then do it’s job and “govern the country”. It simply doesn’t need to be, nor should it be, involved in the providing of most of the services it does currently. |
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91439306
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The problem with taxes in general, is that they go against the Founding Fathers' concept of a free nation and, because of the compulsory nature of taxes, are unlimited in their growth. Because the government is not accountable to the people when they levy taxes, they can legislate and collect taxes without limit. Each generation, they push the limits even higher.
Our forefathers never expected the American citizen to become a slave to the government, yet this is what taxation does. The Framers of the Constitution had one serious flaw: they assumed that taxes would remain under 1% of a person's income, so they never thought to put explicit limits on them in specific ways.
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Tzale
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said by d4man  :Voluntary tax? HAHA!!! Federal income taxes are voluntary too! See what happens if you file a $ 0.00 1040 return! Dont get me started on taxes. Just another example of the idiotic bureaucracies to pick your pockets...... You need taxes to run a government. Sure, they are wasted and we get charged too much but still you NEED taxes. Don't be an idiot and say otherwise because YOU ARE WRONG....
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Skippy25
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Hazelwood, MO
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You are misguided. File a return of $0 and see how long it is before you end up being fined and/or even jailed. You may get away with it for a while, but eventually Uncle Sam WILL come knocking and they won't use lubercation.
I don't agree with the entire tax system, but there is a need for it. Try going a day or even 1/2 a day without utilizing something that your tax dollars don't help provide in one way or another.
Taxing user's for these downloads is silly. Is this an RIAA and MPAA subsidy tax or is this something to actually improve the well being of the people? It would not suprise me if something like this starts up. Just like some states (California for example) that are attempting to force resellers to collect and pay taxes to them if they sell goods to their residents even if the business has no physical presence there. They do this because virtually all states put that obligation on the buyer of the state. Obviously this is voluntary and not paid so they want to force us to do it for them. |
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Voluntary tax? HAHA!!! Federal income taxes are voluntary too! See what happens if you file a $ 0.00 1040 return!
a closer analogy is when the tax preparer asks "did you buy anything off the internet that you didn't pay sales tax on?" or "any undeclared gambling earnings?"
but either way, it won't work, just like the other voluntary taxes |
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d4man
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Voluntary tax? HAHA!!! Federal income taxes are voluntary too! See what happens if you file a $ 0.00 1040 return! Dont get me started on taxes. Just another example of the idiotic bureaucracies to pick your pockets...... |
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