UnKown
The Underground Network
join:2002-09-08
Orlando, FL | reply to oliphant
Re: Go Comcast
As a college student, im one of those cellular only peoples, now im forced to pay for the pots line. This is bogus. All these internet companies are bogus. |
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rediculous
@optonline.net
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Dsl should not be increasing prices anywhere in the country. It should cost no more than the average price for VOIP ($20-35 including all taxes/service recovery fees, etc)
Dialup internet should be phased out, in favor of other options. The next generation of broadband options are in the works a-la fiber and coax based solutions. These will bring a greater profit margin with mass deployment.
There are other ways to fight this, drop your voice line down to basic and get voip.. you'll save more than the $5 incentive to get ripped off by verizon.. as I'm typing this, James Earl Jones just made another few thousand hocking business dsl on tv. Stop the millions in advertising and you won't have to increase rates. Most people know what you sell, and be upfont about the bottom line price (including all fees and taxes) |
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Blo0dwolf
join:2005-02-06
Lansdale, PA
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I switched to Verizon DSL (3m/768k) from Comcast about a month or so ago, just after Comcast raised their speed to 4m/384k in this area. It's not 'just' the cost issue, it's not 'just' the bandwidth issue, it's a combination of issues. My Comcast bill was about $110+ a month for digital cable and internet, but I also switched to DirecTV and now they are costing me around $80 a month. (already have local & long distance through Verizon so that wasn't a factor)
I have had less problems with disconnects and ping outs with the DSL than I have with Comcast, and I get my 3m/768k consistently to most people/places with decent connections. I also used to get the abuse letters every 4-6 months so not getting those will be nice.
I am also waiting for FIOS, but DSL is fine until then. I live in an area that's supposed to be getting it soon.  |
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oliphant
I Have 8 Boobies
Premium
join:2004-11-26
Corona, CA
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said by fddfsdf:
strange how u can paint them with all witht eh same brush, as "warez whores"
Them? Call US what you want...whether it's bittorrent, usenet or whatever...not everyone of US is downloading 20 linux ISO's a day.
Please...I don't give a crap is the downloading is illegal or not. I'm a warez whore which is why I enjoy my unlimited use premium usenet from DSL Extreme.
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fddfsdf
@shawcable.net | reply to oliphant
strange how u can paint them with all witht eh same brush, as "warez whores" |
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VZSuckz
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6/768 service...cable bill is 72.82/mo. This includes basic cable (supposed to be REALLY basic, but they didn't install the filters...lazy asses...so i get 50-60 channels for $15 and some change  )
Verizon DSL was costing me about $90-$100/mo for 3/768. (Phone service + 3 meg service + about $10 in taxes and fees.)
Newsgroups have never been an issue for me because i don't use em.
My cable connection has NEVER gone down (i'm talking...NEVER. Not even once.) and i've NEVER had slowdowns of any kind or troubles with the connection. Verizon DSL continually gave me problems. I got booted every 10 hours...just long enough to make the PPPoE client re-dial. My upstream is also FASTER on this connection then it was on the DSL (uploaded at 50-60k/sec on the DSL, upload at around 85-90k/sec on cable.)
Don't get me wrong, I'm NOT a cable fan. If the comcast CEO were in front of me right now, i'd castrate him, but verizon needs to wake up and realize that Comcast has the lead in most areas that they service. |
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oliphant
I Have 8 Boobies
Premium
join:2004-11-26
Corona, CA
1 edit | reply to imrf
Most people "need" a POTS line anyway...this in comparison to millions of DBS customers who are affected by the HSI penalties. And for us former ATTBi customers...this penalty from Comcast was a new thing that blindsided us.
Now of course I would agree with you...there are significant numbers of people who are cellular only or are cellular and VoIP...but I'm guessing those numbers don't compare to the number of DBS customers that the CC HSI penalties affect.
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imrf
Premium
join:2002-06-06
Utica, MI
 ·Comcast
·WOW Internet and C..
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said by oliphant  :Some also aren't interested in the 30% "How dare you not have CATV" penalty. What about the 100%(or better) "How dare you not have an active phone line" penalty that most if not all telcos have. $20 a month DSL through SBC seems nice, but then I would have to have an active phone line which is $45, so that makes it as expensive as Comcast's 6Mbps/768Kbps without tv service. |
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Dr Demento
I Vant Blud
join:2002-01-02
Denville, NJ
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Its funny seeing this after having a flood of people on those OOL topics chatting about how they switched to Verizon because they were absolutely sure that Verizon would never raise their rates. Of course this doesn't take away from the wrong doings OOL is doing but just proves that a ton of ISPs out there are not infallible to greed, so you might as well expect none are.
Also heres something to know. Why does Verizon still sell there DSL in downtown NYC for $49.99 a month and when asking them for a price change they claim that they do not sell the $29 a month package there. Does anybody know why wouldn't they? Just something to think about thats all. |
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thender2
Glamour Profession
Premium
join:2004-05-16
Staten Island, NY
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said by Eloquorius :I know some like to diss it, but I switched from the "definitely slower line" (DSL) to Comcast cable and haven't looked back... and NO contracts. Month to month at my discretion. And Verizon wants $37 a month for the same deal? Why? When you can get double the speed for five bucks a month more? On top of that, I don't even have to pay for a phone line like I did when I had DSL. Enjoy transfer caps and abuse letters.
You won't know if you're on one of their overloaded nodes or not(read: where people use the internet for things other than email and web browsing) until you get a letter stating you've been abusing the service. By then, I think you'll have already made your decision to get a new ISP. 
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oliphant
I Have 8 Boobies
Premium
join:2004-11-26
Corona, CA
2 edits | reply to Eloquorius
said by Eloquorius : Why? When you can get double the speed for five bucks a month more? The answer is simple. TOS/AUP. People like unlimited use and usenet that's not capped at 2GB. Some also aren't interested in the 30% "How dare you not have CATV" penalty.
I have both DSL and HSI and if I had to choose between the two I would take DSL due to 768kbps uploads and Comcast's restrictive TOS/AUP and lack of options (eg static IP). But you're right...for typical users who aren't warez whores gobbling up 100GB a month...the lure of cable is getting stronger with every DSL price increase.
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Eloquorius
Premium
join:2004-05-24
San Jose, CA
1 edit | I know some like to diss it, but I switched from the "definitely slower line" (DSL) to Comcast cable and haven't looked back... and NO contracts. Month to month at my discretion. And Verizon wants $37 a month for the same deal? Why? When you can get double the speed for five bucks a month more? On top of that, I don't even have to pay for a phone line like I did when I had DSL. |
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