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Jugaad

join:2002-04-28
MARS!!
reply to Jugaad
Re: Cisco PIX OS 7.0 on PIX 520??



BTW

I love the new PIX OS 7 now.


yaplej
CCNA
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·Charter Pipeline

So why the change in heart? Iv been running 7.0 on a pair of 515-UR's with 64MB of ram. I haven't tried anything extremely resource intensive because they are just in my lab, but 7.0 will run on a 515-UR with 64MB in case someone was wondering

yash0

join:2005-05-10
Israel

reply to Jugaad
good & bad news:

1) your trick worked like a charm. put a genuine pdm file
on tftp server, do "copy tftp", pull the network cable
mid-transfer, and reboot: pdm is history.
Very cool indeed!

2) after this there was enough flash mem available and
we were able to install the pix701 image and reboot.

3) but: after installing the image, it wouldn't boot :-(
it would start the boot sequence, and reset itself,
in an endless loop.

It seems that Cisco was serious about not supporting 7.0
on the 520...

Thanks anyway!


grunteled
Puffy And Prickly
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Kansas City, MO
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reply to webnetwiz
Re: Cisco PIX OS 7.0

said by webnetwiz See Profile:

Pix 520 will not be supported. Neither will the 501, 506, 506E (506E will be supported a little later with a memory upgrade), 515. All other Pixes, 515E, 525 and 535 will be supported.
So is the 506 going to be included when the 506E gets there? I have 256M on my 506 and I'd like to take it to 7.x if possible. If not 6.3 is pretty good too. I was pretty excited to finally be able to use VLANs on the 506. Pretty powerful firewall for my home use


grunteled
Puffy And Prickly
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reply to Jugaad
said by Jugaad See Profile:

PIX CLI moving towards IOS sounds good to people who work mostly on IOS. But, for someone who works mostly on PIX, moving towards IOS is a big irritation. For years I looked at IOS and said thank god my PIX CLI is not like that.
It definitely is a router vs pix guy thing. I came from routers and got a PIX forced on me several years ago. Since then I've taken over the rest of them. While the commands were in places similar, I always felt a little out of place. I hate the 6.x command line help... especially on complex commands. I bang the tab key constantly to no avail on the PIX. I also hate the forced NAT and NAT exclusion between security levels on the interfaces. It complicates the config greatly where numerous interfaces are involved.

7.X is a whole new affair. I'm a little apprehensive because it is very different than 6.X in it's commands and structure. That's going to mean more reading for me. However command help is much improved IMO. Tab completion is nice and the ability to remove the forced NAT is VERY welcome in my environment. Our lab firewall is on 7.0.1 and so far I like it. It will be some time before we take it into production on our main firewall pair.

I agree with you though to a point. I'd rather have better security than a kitchen-sink of router and firewall and IDS in one box.


Jugaad

join:2002-04-28
MARS!!



Everyone hates it when there are changes. I hated it too when PIX 7.0 came out. But, when I started working on it I starting liking it...n now I love it...

There is so much more I can do with it. And I have started liking the IOS like CLI too...Much easier to work with...Tabbed input etc...

I would suggest people to take the plunge into 7.x in near future... You won't regret it...But like all cutting edge stuff it needs to mature and smoothen out the bugs...as a thumb rule I deploy new line of code after atleast 6 months of it being out...enough time for people to find bugs and report to the manufacturer...
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Jugaad

join:2002-04-28
MARS!!



Reminds me of a saying >>

"Get ready to change....or get replaced"

Hehe..best of luck to u all
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pdoland
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reply to idolclub
I just got a PIX 515E for a customer. Bought it from CDW. I'm not Cisco certified. (I know, I need to finish that...) Anyway, the unit I just got came with 64 meg RAM, and OS version 6.3. So, if my customer wanted to go with 7.0, I'd have to get more memory first. Somebody asked in this thread about getting memory for a 515e, and I found a number of third-party vendors that sell memory for it. So, here are my questions:

1. Is getting version 7 free? The unit is brand new.
2. How do I go about getting the upgrade, like what form or page to fill out?
3. Is it official yet? Some people in this thread seem to feel it is official release, others said it was still in beta.

Thanks.


yaplej
CCNA
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join:2001-02-10
White City, OR
I have two PIX515's that have 7.0 running on them with only 64MB of ram. I think that you will only need 128MB to use some features of 7.0 like active/active failover. Perhaps some other cool features too.


Jugaad

join:2002-04-28
MARS!!

reply to pdoland


It's official now..earlier comments were posted when it was beta...

See this link and this should answer most of your questions:
»www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/···ae1.html
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Jugaad

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reply to pdoland


Cisco PIX 515/515E Security Appliance Memory Upgrade for PIX Software v7.0

»www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/···8d4.html
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cisco5350
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join:2004-07-10
India
can my 501 support Version 7 .....
i have downloaded pix701.bin ....it is 4.88 MB
i have 8 MB Flash..
pls reply me quickly
thanx;)


grunteled
Puffy And Prickly
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Cisco says no. I'd not put that image on if I were you.


jma24

@bulldogdsl.com

Hi,

I just thought I'd add my experiences:

pixfirewall> sh ver

Cisco PIX Security Appliance Software Version 7.0(1)

Compiled on Thu 31-Mar-05 14:37 by builders
System image file is "flash:/image"
Config file at boot was "startup-config"

pixfirewall up 35 secs

Hardware: PIX-506E, 96 MB RAM, CPU Pentium II 300 MHz
Flash E28F640J3 @ 0xfff00000, 8MB
BIOS Flash AM29F400B @ 0xfffd8000, 32KB

0: Ext: Ethernet0 : media index 0: irq 10
1: Ext: Ethernet1 : media index 1: irq 11

Licensed features for this platform:
Maximum Physical Interfaces : 2
Maximum VLANs : 2
Inside Hosts : Unlimited
Failover : Not supported
VPN-DES : Enabled
VPN-3DES-AES : Enabled
Cut-through Proxy : Enabled
Guards : Enabled
URL Filtering : Enabled
Security Contexts : 0
GTP/GPRS : Disabled
VPN Peers : Unlimited

Regards,

John


jma24

@bulldogdsl.com

reply to grunteled
Hi,

It is possible to run 7.0 on a Pix 506E. You can't however install ADSM, only the CLI.

My account manager at Cisco tells me that they are planning on doing a compressed image with a bootloader that should fit both PIX 7 and ADSM into 8Mb. Since together they are only ~10Mb that sounds feasible.

The Pix 506E is of course not flash upgradeable (not unless you're a dab hand with surface mount soldering at least).

Regards,

John


grunteled
Puffy And Prickly
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1 edit
Does that mean you can get it on the 506? I have the older 506 platform but it seems to be the same device just not 10/100 and no USB.

Hardware: PIX-506, 256 MB RAM, CPU Pentium 200 MHz
Flash i28F640J5 @ 0x300, 8MB
BIOS Flash AT29C257 @ 0xfffd8000, 32KB


jma24

@bulldogdsl.com

Hi,

I can't swear that it will work for you, because it's clearly *not* a supported configuration, so proceed at your own risk!

However PIX 7.0 will easily fit into 8Mb flash (the image is 5Mb so you have about 2.5Mb spare). On this principle I decided to give it a go for a laugh on a PIX that someone gave me.

By this principle it should be able to run on any of the older PIXs that support a memory upgrade past 64Mb. Given that most PIX techs worth their salt won't touch a GUI, I wonder why Cisco are so adamant that it won't work.

Warnings over, this is how to do it in very general terms.

1) Boot your pix *on the console* and login
2) Back up the FS to tftp
3) Format the filesystem, delete all the files on it
4) Reboot to monitor mode
5) tftp boot the Pix from an image (6.3, 7.0, makes no odds)
6) copy tftp://server/pix701.bin flash:image
7) reload
8) request a new 3DES activation key from Cisco (free).

Regards,

John


NeTwOrKDawg
Networking is a lifestyle

join:2005-04-25
Brantford, ON
reply to idolclub
Can anyone tell me how to do:

3) Format the filesystem, delete all the files on it

I have tried clear flashfs and no flashfs .. can't get rid of the PDM files in flash so can't update to 7.01


NeTwOrKDawg
Networking is a lifestyle

join:2005-04-25
Brantford, ON


1 edit
reply to idolclub
Oops never mind.. that wasn't hard...

Cisco PIX Security Appliance Software Version 7.0(1)

Compiled on Thu 31-Mar-05 14:37 by builders
System image file is "flash:/image.bin"
Config file at boot was "startup-config"

pixfirewall up 1 min 16 secs

Hardware: PIX-506E, 64 MB RAM, CPU Pentium II 300 MHz
Flash E28F640J3 @ 0xfff00000, 8MB
BIOS Flash AM29F400B @ 0xfffd8000, 32KB

0: Ext: Ethernet0 : media index 0: irq 10
1: Ext: Ethernet1 : media index 1: irq 11

Licensed features for this platform:
Maximum Physical Interfaces : 2
Maximum VLANs : 2
Inside Hosts : Unlimited
Failover : Not supported
VPN-DES : Enabled
VPN-3DES-AES : Enabled
Cut-through Proxy : Enabled
Guards : Enabled
URL Filtering : Enabled
Security Contexts : 0
GTP/GPRS : Disabled
VPN Peers : Unlimited

This platform does not support Failover.


grunteled
Puffy And Prickly
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said by NeTwOrKDawg See Profile:

Oops never mind.. that wasn't hard...
Would you mind sharing? I'm not going to make the switch till a couple more releases but I would like to know what the command is.
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