s_Fanous
@tedata.net
| reply to hippo
Re: DSL in Egypt
said by hippo  :Dear Msakr, If the issue is the international link, NTRA has nothing to do, that's out of the ISP hands. would someone who has a problem with TEData post a trace snapshot, I just want to know where the delay happens (since my line works perfectly as posted before). Just a minor issue, I used to peak at 56 KB, now about 53 (512 Kbps) Here's my trace
Insane high time for the seabone link. Funny thing is friends I know have a 90ms response time from the seabone link. |
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MSakr
@menanet.net
| This's my trace route at 4:37pm!
C:\Documents and Settings\Metallica>tracert www.yahoo.com
Tracing route to www.yahoo-ht3.akadns.net [87.248.113.14]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms VodafoneBox.vodafone [192.168.1.1]
2 45 ms 46 ms 47 ms lo0.erx.rams.cair.raya [172.31.1.140]
3 43 ms 46 ms 46 ms 172.22.22.10
4 605 ms 605 ms 589 ms pal6-raya-2.pal.seabone.net [195.22.198.5]
5 487 ms 484 ms 473 ms mil52-mil50-racc2.mil.seabone.net [195.22.196.17
5]
6 544 ms 542 ms 553 ms xe-5-1-0.mil10.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.68.61]
7 639 ms 626 ms 639 ms so-1-0-0.dub20.ip.tiscali.net [89.149.187.2]
8 623 ms 614 ms 669 ms yahoo-overture-gw2.dub20.ip.tiscali.net [213.200
.67.202]
9 486 ms 569 ms 507 ms ge-1-2.bas-b1.ird.yahoo.com [87.248.101.9]
10 605 ms 627 ms 623 ms f1.us.www.vip.ird.yahoo.com [87.248.113.14]
Trace complete.
I dunno what's this supposed to be ! this's Wrong and i'm sick of it. |
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MSakr
@menanet.net
| reply to s_Fanous
I have called them again, the guy told me there's no problems at all in your line nor SEABONE backbone route!.
It's just could be a Pressure in your area central...
i told him it's not a 50+ms delay it's about 450+ms each day from 2pm - 3am and that i know alot of people in same area ( Dar al salam ) who have awesome service from TE-data and link.He just said the same thing again it might be a pressure.... i dunno but this's wrong! |
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MSakr
@menanet.net | reply to melharty
nice some 1 else playing wow through vodafone 
add me if you have msn |
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habib2005
join:2007-04-25
egypt | nice talk my friends but you can share alot of info with alot of internet users in egypt at dvd4arab.com .
you will find alot of info about major ISp status and problems . |
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hippo
Premium
join:2007-06-27
| reply to speed_lover
Well, as far as I know up to 240 ms is considered acceptable in the Egyptian market, I know you must be getting problems regarding your gaming experience but that's how things work, you cannot control everything, for Vodafone guys, this is extremely weird, TE Data managed to get their seabone sort of fized, but Vodafone not?!!
and regarding the exchange pressure that's BS, you have the trace indicating it is seabone problem!
Granted there must be a problem at seabone, but why the extreme variance in service quality between providers? maybe TE Data has better SLA? or bigger share of the bandwidth (naturally). |
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hippo
Premium
join:2007-06-27 | reply to speed_lover
Well, and we were complaining about the delay 
now forget everything, your packets run around the globe to reach anywhere. |
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MSakr
@menanet.net
| said by hippo :Well, and we were complaining about the delay now forget everything, your packets run around the globe to reach anywhere. Well ye funny cables again , but the weird is that i have better latency and ping now lawl! |
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BJinEgypt
@tedata.net
| For what it's worth, TEData are now routing via flag, which seems to be so much more congested than even the backup link that they had running via turktelecom.
Tracing route to www.egypt.hsbc.com [193.108.74.248]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms 2 ms 1 ms home.gateway [192.168.1.254]
2 28 ms 27 ms 27 ms TGMOKHMS-R01C-C-EG [163.121.170.123]
3 29 ms 28 ms 28 ms host-163.121.191.137.tedata.net [163.121.191.137]
4 28 ms 28 ms 29 ms host-163.121.184.209.tedata.net [163.121.184.209]
5 29 ms 28 ms 30 ms host-163.121.186.253.tedata.net [163.121.186.253]
6 28 ms 28 ms 28 ms host-163.121.184.61.tedata.net [163.121.184.61]
7 2607 ms 2604 ms 2613 ms 80.77.0.169
8 2605 ms 2627 ms 2637 ms ge-0-0-0.0.ejr01.cai001.flagtel.com [62.216.133.17]
9 2566 ms 2567 ms 2594 ms so-2-0-0.0.cjr04.alx001.flagtel.com [62.216.129.
Quite pathetic really.. calling tedata doesn't help as they make you sit through a 2 minute description of how they've successfully fixed all the internet problems! |
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MSakr
@menanet.net
| Ye ,well i miss Turktelecom! had about 250 ms latency in end-hops.. but since they put flag back things are messed up!
Here's a trace route for the same website u tested on :
Tracing route to www.egypt.hsbc.com [193.108.74.248]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms VodafoneBox.vodafone [192.168.1.1]
2 52 ms 46 ms 47 ms lo0.erx.rams.cair.raya [172.31.1.140]
3 56 ms 46 ms 46 ms 172.22.22.10
4 45 ms 46 ms 46 ms 172.22.22.17
5 328 ms 334 ms 334 ms so-0-0-3.cjr01.nyc005.flagtel.com [80.77.0.129]
6 417 ms 426 ms 419 ms ge-6-23.car3.newyork1.level3.net [4.71.172.177]
7 423 ms 419 ms 444 ms ae-1-69.edge2.newyork2.level3.net [4.68.16.12]
8 386 ms 392 ms * cable-wirel.edge2.newyork2.level3.net [4.71.190.
6]
9 * 469 ms 473 ms xe-0-1-0.xcr1.lnd.cw.net [195.2.25.21]
10 467 ms 484 ms 474 ms ge-1-0-0-dcr1.lnd.cw.net [195.2.25.122]
11 482 ms 474 ms 485 ms so-0-0-0-ycr1.mcr.cw.net [166.63.163.226]
12 394 ms 393 ms 391 ms hsbc-gw.mcr.cw.net [208.175.252.50]
in-game latency is a 600 ms constant :S
Although i'm with vodafone but they have their host from Te-Data atm! |
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BJinEgypt
join:2009-01-06
| So SMW4 looks like it has been repaired and TEData have switched back to seabone.
However, the latencies are bad.. better than the last two and a half weeks obviously but about 3x what they were before the outage.
1 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms home.gateway [192.168.1.254]
2 27 ms 27 ms 27 ms TGMOKHMS-R01C-C-EG [163.121.170.123]
3 28 ms 29 ms 29 ms host-163.121.191.137.tedata.net [163.121.191.137]
4 29 ms 28 ms 29 ms host-163.121.184.209.tedata.net [163.121.184.209]
5 29 ms 28 ms 29 ms host-163.121.186.253.tedata.net [163.121.186.253]
6 29 ms 28 ms 27 ms host-163.121.184.61.tedata.net [163.121.184.61]
7 315 ms 332 ms 332 ms unassigned.pal.seabone.net [213.144.181.101]
8 295 ms 313 ms 296 ms xe-5-1-0.mil10.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.68.61]
9 295 ms 296 ms 294 ms xe-10-0-0.fra20.ip.tiscali.net [89.149.187.237]
This is early morning so i doubt it's congested. Could just be people catching up on not having proper internet for a few weeks but to me it looks very suspicious. |
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AM
@net.sa | reply to speed_lover
I had tried T.data in some other services, but I am not happy at all with the service they provided , they already cheat, and decive me, I do not recommand then to anyone |
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Samba77
join:2009-03-15
| reply to speed_lover
Hey guys, I live in Egypt, Rehab to be specific, and I recently canceled my subscription to link.net and received my cancelation number. Now I want to sign up with a good ISP but I can’t make up my mind specifically after reading this thread, obviously they are all crooks in our eyes. Can you please help me decide where to go(best crook)?
I’m looking forward to get the speed I pay for with a reasonable ping, I know I can’t get good ping in Egypt so ill settle with “reasonable”.
I also am looking for an isp which is currently stable (an isp that managed to pull itself together after the cables were cut and fully recovered also no purchasing banwidth from other isp’s and swiching sea-cables crap or other tricks). I mainly use my line for: work, online gaming and sometimes torrents.
I know it’s not a big pool of isp’s to choose from: tedata, link, egynet, nileonline, raya etc…(Vodafone still doesn’t support rehab) so can someone please give me updated information about his isp’s DL speed, ping, quality etc … and if there is currently any tricks inorder to avoid that isp? (other than link )
also is nile-online still on tedata’s bandwidth to this date? Did it degrade in quality after etisalat acquired it?is it still worth the extra money it charges?
If you live in Rehab or close would be a plus.
Thanks in advance. |
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mezo9090
join:2009-03-18
| reply to speed_lover
hey samba77, i just moved near Rehab a few months ago, had the same problem with the shitty ISP's giving you very low speed or no speed at all, anyway last two ISP's i tried were the wireless type ( Etisalat, MobiniL ) :
-MobiniL : Listen carefully to this, In there Ads they say: you MAY have a speed up to 7.2Mbps, i get a max. of 1Mbps for this, that's about 120kb/s download speed and not all the time (sometimes it reaches 10kb/s)and have some down time IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY.
Note that they take their internet from Link Egypt as i found out by looking up my IP.
-Etisalat : i tried the 385kbps package for a while it seemed pretty good, even better than Tedata - which i tried at my old home - and the connection speed was good all the time giving me about 47kb/s download speed, and a nice ping 200ms to Europe, i haven't tried the higher package which is also 7.2Mbps for about 300EGP and limited to 6 G.B. -lol they say unlimited- but i guess it would be fine.
Note that etisalat is an independent ISP unlike MobiniL.
Oh, i made this site »www.egyptisp.blogspot.com While i was in my misery trying to get a good isp in the last vacation - i spent it without internet -
i am trying to make an isp statistics to help people know the best isp they can deal with. |
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munshi87
join:2007-03-25
egypt
2 edits | reply to speed_lover
nile online does not route via tedata
i am a NOL user in Alexandria and i just did a traceroute on both yahoo and google and no TEdata results were found.
traceroute: Warning: www.google.com has multiple addresses; using 209.85.137.99
traceroute to www.l.google.com (209.85.137.99), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 1.696 ms 1.240 ms 1.215 ms
2 SMH-C31.nile-online.net (172.16.158.66) 16.167 ms 17.643 ms 15.492 ms
3 10.210.158.5 (10.210.158.5) 114.856 ms 22.782 ms 19.915 ms
4 62.140.102.2 (62.140.102.2) 22.618 ms 23.477 ms 21.384 ms
5 62.140.124.129 (62.140.124.129) 21.918 ms 26.746 ms 21.020 ms
6 uto-gtw1-g030.nile-online.net (62.140.96.1) 21.835 ms 22.193 ms 21.138 ms
7 so-4-2-0.0.cjr02.ldn001.flagtel.com (62.216.145.97) 92.374 ms 113.475 ms 92.351 ms
8 ge-2-1-0.0.pjr01.ldn001.flagtel.com (85.95.25.129) 100.597 ms 97.481 ms 94.093 ms
9 so-1-0-0.0.cjr03.ldn004.flagtel.com (85.95.25.14) 98.500 ms 96.035 ms 102.926 ms
10 ge-1-1-0.0.cjr02.ldn004.flagtel.com (62.216.129.65) 103.206 ms 92.010 ms so-1-0-0.0.cjr02.ldn004.flagtel.com (85.95.25.10) 97.671 ms
11 195.66.224.125 (195.66.224.125) 97.015 ms 93.792 ms 98.176 ms
12 209.85.252.42 (209.85.252.42) 97.649 ms 91.391 ms 209.85.252.40 (209.85.252.40) 91.430 ms
13 72.14.233.63 (72.14.233.63) 103.292 ms 209.85.248.80 (209.85.248.80) 107.664 ms 110.563 ms
14 209.85.250.141 (209.85.250.141) 111.710 ms 127.592 ms 72.14.232.209 (72.14.232.209) 155.211 ms
15 209.85.248.248 (209.85.248.248) 115.956 ms 114.761 ms 123.479 ms
16 209.85.241.83 (209.85.241.83) 120.884 ms 112.351 ms 209.85.241.187 (209.85.241.187) 111.833 ms
17 216.239.43.22 (216.239.43.22) 114.393 ms 216.239.43.26 (216.239.43.26) 119.750 ms 216.239.43.98 (216.239.43.98) 124.623 ms
18 mg-in-f99.google.com (209.85.137.99) 127.073 ms 112.460 ms 119.178 ms
and for yahoo.com
traceroute to www-real.wa1.b.yahoo.com (87.248.113.14), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 1.630 ms 1.218 ms 1.228 ms
2 SMH-C31.nile-online.net (172.16.158.66) 17.316 ms 15.228 ms 15.495 ms
3 10.210.158.1 (10.210.158.1) 18.906 ms 25.665 ms 19.401 ms
4 62.140.102.2 (62.140.102.2) 18.927 ms 22.951 ms 20.439 ms
5 62.140.124.129 (62.140.124.129) 22.714 ms 25.064 ms 19.425 ms
6 uto-gtw1-g030.nile-online.net (62.140.96.1) 21.891 ms 20.538 ms 21.329 ms
7 so-4-2-0.0.cjr02.ldn001.flagtel.com (62.216.145.97) 94.352 ms 93.956 ms 91.814 ms
8 ge-2-1-2.0.pjr01.ldn001.flagtel.com (85.95.25.133) 94.570 ms 100.127 ms 96.604 ms
9 so-1-0-0.0.cjr03.ldn004.flagtel.com (85.95.25.14) 90.955 ms 92.670 ms 96.528 ms
10 ge-5-2-0.edge3.London1.Level3.net (212.113.15.33) 84.467 ms 89.279 ms 81.780 ms
11 ae-33-51.ebr1.London1.Level3.net (4.69.139.65) 82.048 ms 91.694 ms 83.930 ms
12 ae-5-5.car1.Dublin1.Level3.net (4.69.136.89) 91.924 ms 92.312 ms 92.410 ms
13 213.242.106.30 (213.242.106.30) 90.653 ms 94.140 ms 100.496 ms
14 gi-1-1.bas-b1.ird.yahoo.com (87.248.101.1) 97.073 ms 92.266 ms gi-1-7.bas-b2.ird.yahoo.com (87.248.101.29) 113.839 ms |
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mfrmikhalil
join:2007-11-03 | reply to speed_lover
Any one living in Maadi who is experiencing a very slow connection for the the last 4 to 5 days to any international site. The only thing working at full bandwidth is tedata website and some local sites? |
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Saladin
join:2009-07-14
| reply to speed_lover
Hi, i`m so glad to find this threat but was better to keep it up to date weekly or so, anyway i was suffering of link.Net LIES after the last january 2009 cable cuts, the ping is always higly variable which indicates every latency application will be terrible (i`m a WOW player LONG ago)
so they kpet LYING when i speak to them as usual trying to tell me that "Oh sir everything is ok, are you halucinating Sir? "
WOW was unplayabale (same goes with browsing which was heavy)
anyway i left that line for my niegbour and i got NTRA fixed my "pair Gun" line!!!
and subscribed with vodafone blindly, i liked the 7 Gb for P2P limit idea since it indicates they r a MATURE company and the bandwidth will be Evenly distributed to customers
but after subscribing 6 weeks ago and i`m seeing NIGHTMARES (compared to Link.net)
the 1 Mbps in miami central /Alexandria is :
MAXIMUM 70 k Downlaod speed , and may drop to 20 kbps in peak hours!!!
Wow is Tottaly unplayable in parties ( i instanly get disonnected)
The Only good point is that they were FRANK not LIERS unlike Link.net they all told me that Around 15/7 they have a "Global link Upgrade" and they seemed to have that as an issue accross egypt
but through the time internet worsened so i kept calling them !! they subscribe more users while the capcacity is already overloaded (or having problems)
so i was surprised wehn 2 calls to customer support they informed me that ALSO my telephone Exchange (sidi bishr 2 aka miami) is having problems and needs upgrade and they are waiting for TE allowance to upgrade which might take long time
so i`m waiting for tommorow and hoping that the GlobalLink upgrade fixes my connection as its realy the worst service i have seen long ago.
Cheers |
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